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Old 05-16-2007, 03:59 PM   #71 (permalink)
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How do atheists and agnostics deal with the notion that certain rights are "Creator endowed"?


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Metaphorically.
Does that mean all of the rights enumerated in the Constitution are only metaphorical and not real?
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That first quote was from someone else

Ahhh... you should have used the quote tags.
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How do atheists and agnostics deal with the notion that certain rights are "Creator endowed"?




Does that mean all of the rights enumerated in the Constitution are only metaphorical and not real?
No it means creator is relative... your creator may be Jesus... Mine was a woman named Dorothy.
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You aren't the one being ignorant in this exchange... It's Gary.



Go ahead gary, this is where you report my post and whine to the admins a bunch... let the dance begin!

I was making the point that, in this forum, under your "moderation", almost any benign comment can be labelled offensive or a racial slur.

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No it means creator is relative... your creator may be Jesus... Mine was a woman named Dorothy.
Good answer. Mine were named Cora and Matthew.
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Good answer. Mine were named Cora and Matthew.
Crazy,

I love the names of your Creators.

And I was thinking where did I hear of a Cora and Matthew before, and came up with Cory Matthews, from Boy Meets World. Did anyone else ever notice that?

Pretty close, yeah?

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"There is a huge difference between having religious people influence government and creating a theocracy!" gary
Obviously.
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They don't have to deal with the same restrictions when dealing with the government" gary
You seem to utterly misapprehend the dynamic by which this separation functions.

It does not (for example, though clearly you have never asserted otherwise) prohibit Christians from voting.

Instead, it prohibits Christians in Congress from voting to require Christian prayer in U.S. government (so called "public" [in the U.S.] schools).
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I love the names of your Creators.

And I was thinking where did I hear of a Cora and Matthew before, and came up with Cory Matthews, from Boy Meets World. Did anyone else ever notice that?

Pretty close, yeah?

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Nope. Can't say that I ever heard that before. It is rather funny.

To remain totally off topic: I once knew a married couple named Laverne and Shirley. (Laverne was a man; it is a rather common male name in the South.)
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Enough to be an expert.

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Seriously so tell us what you have learned about marriage. What advice would you give to a young couple considering marriage?
As to marriage rules...what rules? Whose rules? You error Gary.

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I error? Since when was error a verb?


Even the Catholic Church knows better and makes marriage a sacrament of the church. Not even recognizing divorce unless it is through the church. If a relationship needs rules to make it a marriage, that ought to come under the auspices of whatever spiritual/social organization the couple wish to adhere to.

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It isn't so much the relationship that needs rules as the marriage, rules like minimum age, unmarried, opposite sex, etc

You can't blame a failed marriage on the institution of marriage, just as you can't blame a car accident on your driving licence
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