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I agree with Moonwings. If the USA has a nuclear program and has shown to cause pre-emptive, non provocted war, why shouldn't Iran be allowed to have a nuclear program??????? It is hypocritical for us to demand anything of the sort... in other words: IT IS NOT OUR PLACE ANYMORE!!!!! Thanks again for this beautiful foreign bullying... er I mean policy. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- "There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: May 2007 Location: Detroit Michigan Gender: ![]() Posts: 127 Country: ![]()
| How To Fight Iran? Why not how to create a solution with Iran to prevent farther conflicts? We should leave Iran alone. I believe that Iran is just reacting to the situation that's been created in the Muslim world, and Iran has rights just like the United States government do. Common senses will tell a people...don't mess with a poison snake, but our Government is so full of Chit until it do not give a damn if the snake do bite, and usually once the snake is distrubed and attack we want to kill all snakes. We should have NEVER set up forces in the Middle East. Its wasn't our business, but we made it our business, and now we are the ones who is suffering the most. I am NOT talking about our government suffering. I am speaking about Citizens who have loveones,Sons,Daughters, Grandkids,etc,etc,etc in the Middle East. We're the ones who is suffering. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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For example, both Germany and Japan, by means of all-out war, were prevented from developing nuclear weapons in the 1940's. So, technically speaking, preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons, even if their development is in Iran's national interest, isn't impossible. Quote:
So, why should a suicide bomber who holds a martyr mentality give a damn about "mutual assured destruction?" And, perhaps the Iranians failed to notice the Kargil War in Kashmir in 1999 whereby nuclear-armed Pakistan invaded nuclear-armed India. ![]() Last edited by baloney_detector; 06-20-2007 at 11:12 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Whether you agree or not, Iran does not have any "right" to have nuclear weapons since Iran is a signatory nation of the NPT. And, if Iran had simply lived up to her obligations stated within that treaty we would most likely not be having this discussion today. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| So then, in your mind, the US must be the only nuclear-armed nation among five nuclear-armed, NPT signatory nations who must give up her nuclear weapons simply because her government has "talked about bombing Iran" as a possible response to Iran's nuclear activities? Is this what you are saying? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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WHEN Iraq gets nuclear weapons it will no doubt be the blood shed from the hands of the US and its failed Middle Eastern policies under Bush | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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But, I'd rather be considered a hypocrite than to live in a far more more dangerous world whereby all nations are allowed to have nuclear weapons since a few nations possess them. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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A good place to start would be here: Iran Watch - tracking Iran's mass destruction weapon capabilities (This site also has the actual IAEA reports.) And, how would you define the phrase "conclusive evidence?" (Mind you, a country doesn't necessarily have to possess an actual and verified nuclear bomb in order for it to be considered as having "nuclear weapons ambitions.") Quote:
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I mean, if Iran doesn't want to be told what it can and cannot do regarding her nuclear program, then why should she be a signatory nation of the NPT? And, what real policing power would the UN hold if there aren't penalties for violations of international treaties? (Evidently, the UN found Iran's hand in the nuclear weapon "cookie jar," so to speak. So, even though Iran is a signatory nation of the NPT, she can do whatever she wants to do since she is a "sovereign" nation? Is this what you are saying?) Quote:
So, if or when an Iranian-produced nuclear weapon goes off in Tel Aviv or elsewhere, it would be the US's (or Bush's) fault? Is this what you are saying? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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