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Old 02-16-2006, 07:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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UN Calls for Guantanamo Closure
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BBC | Thursday, 16 February 2006

UN human rights investigators have called for the immediate closure of the US detention camp at Guantanamo Bay.

A UN report on conditions in the Cuba camp says the US should try all inmates or free them "without further delay".

Some aspects of the treatment of the 500-strong camp population amount to torture, the UN team alleges.

The US has rejected the closure call, with White House spokesman Scott McClellan saying that the facility houses "dangerous terrorists".

US officials have dismissed most of the allegations as "largely without merit", saying the five investigators never actually visited Guantanamo Bay.

One of the five investigators responsible for the report, UN special rapporteur on torture Manfred Nowak, said the detention of inmates for years without charge amounted to arbitrary detention.

"Those persons either have to be released immediately or they should be brought to a proper and competent court and tried for the offences they are charged with," he told the BBC.

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In London, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour said she could not endorse every recommendation made by the report - but that she could see little alternative to closing down the camp.

The report says the US treatment of detainees, some of whom have been held for more than four years, violates their rights to physical and mental health.

The report expresses concern at the use of excessive force during transportation and force-feeding through nasal tubes during hunger strikes, which it says amounts to torture.

The lack of any US investigation into these allegations is a breach of the UN Convention against Torture, it adds.

The report ends by demanding that the UN be granted full and unrestricted access to the camp's facilities, including private interviews with detainees.

Access row

The US invited the UN to the camp last year after years of requests, but refused to grant the investigators the right to speak to detainees in private.

The UN said private interviews were a "totally non-negotiable pre-condition" for conducting the visit and refused to send investigators.

The Pentagon has said only the International Committee of the Red Cross needs free access to prisoners.

The charity has been granted access, but reports its findings only to the detaining authorities.

A draft version of the UN document was leaked earlier this week.

The report is based on interviews with former detainees and lawyers acting on behalf of inmates, media reports, reports by non-governmental organisations and US government answers to a questionnaire.
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This should be interesting to see where this goes. But I bet you the US will just simply turn down UN inspecters, or like they have before, try and hide things. If the inspectors are alowed to interview inmates in private, I fear that their lives or wellbeing will be threatened by the US military, warning them not to speak their minds.

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Old 02-16-2006, 08:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The United States is holding about 500 men at the U.S. naval base on the southeastern tip of Cuba. The detainees are accused of having links to Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime or al-Qaida, though only 10 have been charged since the detention camp opened in January 2001.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060216/.../un_guantanamo

It opened over 5 years ago, and since then it has seen about 500 detainees, and ONLY TEN have been charged???

Am I the only one who sees a SERIOUS problem here???

Seriously. If anybody thinks they can explain why there would be no inherent problem with that, I'ld love to hear it...
Old 02-17-2006, 05:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah I had a big post on my blog about the fact that only 10 people were actually charged of criminal activity. These concentration camps are criminal.
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These concentration camps are criminal.

Hear hear.

Consistent with the MO of the current administration overal.
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Those Gitmo prisoners are suffering a fate worse than death. It's even been said that some are literally trying to starve themselves to death (more than just a 'hunger strike') and their torturers are force-feeding them with feeding tubes.

This stuff goes beyond torture. They're creating a genuine living Hell at Guantanamo Bay.
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Those Gitmo prisoners are suffering a fate worse than death. It's even been said that some are literally trying to starve themselves to death (more than just a 'hunger strike') and their torturers are force-feeding them with feeding tubes.

This stuff goes beyond torture. They're creating a genuine living Hell at Guantanamo Bay.

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Those Gitmo prisoners are suffering a fate worse than death. It's even been said that some are literally trying to starve themselves to death (more than just a 'hunger strike') and their torturers are force-feeding them with feeding tubes.

This stuff goes beyond torture. They're creating a genuine living Hell at Guantanamo Bay.

Pure Nazi. This administration has so many parallels.
That's a bit OTT, the Nazis would have killed them long ago.
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Those Gitmo prisoners are suffering a fate worse than death. It's even been said that some are literally trying to starve themselves to death (more than just a 'hunger strike') and their torturers are force-feeding them with feeding tubes.

This stuff goes beyond torture. They're creating a genuine living Hell at Guantanamo Bay.

Pure Nazi. This administration has so many parallels.
That's a bit OTT, the Nazis would have killed them long ago.

Death would probably be welcome to most Gitmo prisoners at this point. Many are trying to starve themselves to death.
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Do you know what's amazingly stupid about this? The UN isn't calling for China to close its gulags, or for Saudi Arabia to stop beheading people in public. Wow, way to have a double standard UN.

I'm not saying that Gitmo is right, by any means. I'm just saying that the UN is really in no position to be targeting the US right now.
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Those Gitmo prisoners are suffering a fate worse than death. It's even been said that some are literally trying to starve themselves to death (more than just a 'hunger strike') and their torturers are force-feeding them with feeding tubes.

This stuff goes beyond torture. They're creating a genuine living Hell at Guantanamo Bay.

Pure Nazi. This administration has so many parallels.
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Did you see Jon Stewart's rant about comparing people to Hitler? Or the one about comparing things to Nazis to further a political agenda?

It was a good rant. That's all I have to say.
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