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Old 05-12-2006, 05:25 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Nearly half of corporations in America do not provide health care for their employees.
I think that most corporations who have full-time employees, should indeed offer healthcare. Why not make that a law instead of having the government run healthcare based on taxes.
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Old 05-12-2006, 05:31 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I think that most corporations who have full-time employees, should indeed offer healthcare. Why not make that a law instead of having the government run healthcare based on taxes.
Because that would make hiring employees damn near impossible for a majority of small businesses in America. Unemployment would spike!
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Hevusa I think this is a key factor that really should be expressed. Raising minimum wage according to inflation, year after year, not every 10 or so years, would be fine.

Could we all come upon that agreement??

I could certainly agree with that! I would, however, want to see the "livable wage" for adults increase to a wage you can actually live off of (no more multiple full time jobs to support families).
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Most of the countries (including Canada) that have government control over health care have higher life expectancy than us and total coverage of citizens.

Nearly half of corporations in America do not provide health care for their employees.

You have to give me some documentation before I swallow that.
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You have to give me some documentation before I swallow that.
This is a great place to start:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...ge_America.pdf
http://www.nchc.org/facts/coverage.shtml


http://www.nchc.org/facts/2006 Fact Sheets/Coverage - 2006.pdf

Millions of workers don't have the opportunity to get coverage. A third of firms in the U.S. did not offer coverage in 2004 (2).

Nearly two-fifths (38 percent) of all workers are employed in smaller businesses, where less than two-thirds of firms now offer health benefits to their employees. (4)It is estimated that 266,000 companies dropped their health coverage between 2000-2005 and 90 percent of those firms have less than 25 employees.

Even if employees are offered coverage on the job, they can't always afford their portion of the premium. Employee spending for health insurance coverage (employee's share of family coverage) has increased 143 percent between 2000 and 2005. (5)




So about 33% of employers do not provide coverage.
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Old 05-13-2006, 01:26 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I think that most corporations who have full-time employees, should indeed offer healthcare. Why not make that a law instead of having the government run healthcare based on taxes.
Sorry just had to add. Canada has healthcare for everyone.
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I still don't know who all these uninsured workers are? Looks like according to your links that most of the uninsured are part time workers or workers in the service businesses. Food workers have never had insurance and the same for part time. I guess when I think of corporations, I think more in terms of a company that produces something, not a restaurant. The manangement of restaurants usually get health care. Every job I ever had in the printing industry provided health care.

As far as Canada. It's true everyone has health care provided (everyone in the USA does to), but I know for a fact that not very many people are happy with it. Let's hear from some Canadians. No one is turned away from a hospital in the USA if they need care. That's the bottom line. I am totally against socialist medicine.
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minimum wage should just be a starting point, show up to work on time when you are scheduled, do your job satisfactorily and hey you know what you just might get a raise.

why would you do a good job or show up on time if you can just bounce from minimum wage job to minimum wage. Mybe a minimum wage based on how long you have been doing it. Every 3 months a slight increase then annually after that and after a few years you get to that livable wage.
If you leave your job on good terms for valid reasons (for another topic) you don't lose you wage when you start your next job.

My experience hiring is everybody wants to get PAID, but nobody wants to work.
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minimum wage should just be a starting point, show up to work on time when you are scheduled, do your job satisfactorily and hey you know what you just might get a raise.

why would you do a good job or show up on time if you can just bounce from minimum wage job to minimum wage. Mybe a minimum wage based on how long you have been doing it. Every 3 months a slight increase then annually after that and after a few years you get to that livable wage.
If you leave your job on good terms for valid reasons (for another topic) you don't lose you wage when you start your next job.

My experience hiring is everybody wants to get PAID, but nobody wants to work.
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As far as Canada. It's true everyone has health care provided (everyone in the USA does to), but I know for a fact that not very many people are happy with it. Let's hear from some Canadians. No one is turned away from a hospital in the USA if they need care. That's the bottom line. I am totally against socialist medicine.
I dont know if any of you remember this but there was a case in the US when a man had several nails lodged in his brain from a work accident. The surgery cost about 50 k or somewhere around there. The man could not afford it.
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