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Old 05-10-2006, 11:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Right, but a plane traveling at fast speeds directed to the WTC, taking out a couple of columns, weakens the structure.
Weaken the impact site, sure, but not the 90 floors below them. It would have taken a much longer time to fall had each floor come down on the next.
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The steel was rated at such a high quality that it would have taken much longer than 2 hours to collapse even with the fuel in mind.
Steel does not need to MELT to collapse. It only needs to weaken.
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Steel does not need to MELT to collapse. It only needs to weaken.

Sure, but the impact and fire was limited to about 10-15 floors. The rest would not be weakened or on fire. In fact firefighters had reached the fire and were working on putting it out (which they thought they could do fairly easily).

This does not account for the freefall of the two towers.
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Sure, but the impact and fire was limited to about 10-15 floors. The rest would not be weakened or on fire. In fact firefighters had reached the fire and were working on putting it out (which they thought they could do fairly easily).

This does not account for the freefall of the two towers.
Yes, it does.

It's simply a matter of physics. Really, it is.

Once the upper floors collapsed - due to WEAKENED steel - there is NO WAY the lower floors could support the collapsing weight. We're not just talking about weight. We're talking about momentum and force.

This is the great thing about conspiracy theories: You simply cannot prove them wrong.
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Yes, it does.

It's simply a matter of physics. Really, it is.

Once the upper floors collapsed - due to WEAKENED steel - there is NO WAY the lower floors could support the collapsing weight. We're not just talking about weight. We're talking about momentum and force.

This is the great thing about conspiracy theories: You simply cannot prove them wrong.

The structure below the weakened portion would fall at free fall speeds? Not possible.
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All this bickering is beside the point. A man from the inside of the Bush administration has came out and said things like this. If that doesn't ring bells than I don't know what does. At least bells to question the official story, or have more close, scientific, and impartial investigations.
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