OK... Your translation is wrong.

Here's the correct translation for Leviticus 23:39

"Be it on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when you have gathered in the fruits of the land, you shall keep the feast of the Lord seven days; on the first day shall be a solemn rest, and on the eighth day shall be a solemn rest."

I can understand how that mistake can happen, since the word used for "solemn rest" has the same root as "Shabbat." However, the vowels are different, so it is a different word. This passage instructs on how to observe the holiday of Sukkot.The eighth day thing also applies here.

Exodus 20:8 is the commandment to "Remember the Sabbath Day, and Keep it holy."

The text specifically says "Yom ha Shabbat," not "yom shivii" which would mean "seventh day," not as a day of the week but as the seventh day of something or other.

For the Exodus 16:23-29, Shabbat is always one day long, so this makes sense. This is just God reinforcing stuff he's said before.

I already explained the Leviticus 23 stuff, so moving on...

Leviticus 25 does not refer to THE Sabbath, but a sort of break for the trees. It's just an agricultural practice that they're explaining, not Yom Shabbat.

I can't honestly say anything about the New Testament, since I've never read it in English, let alone Hebrew.

The New Testament was not written in Hebrew, but Greek. The 8th day was always rotating wasn't it?

Sabbath means rest or break doesn't it? A 70-year rest.

Ergo, NO contradiction exists if Jesus says it doesn't.
Just like I said earlier.

You're getting past admitting a contradiction based on YOUR FAITH. NOT because the contradiction isn't there, but rather because you REFUSE to question your belief that it isn't there.


ROFLMAO!

You know, a RATIONAL mind would question which person should be believed. Which person made more sense. Which historical perspective was more accurate and substantiated.

YOU just pick a person who you will believe ANYTHING he says, and you are INCAPABLE of questioning it.

You can't argue against my stance without committing a GROSS "appeal to expert" fallacy.


Again, ROFLMAO!
It is NOT that I don't know what I'm talking about.

It is JUST that I don't have your blind faith in whatever Jesus has to say.
That is the ONLY area where our interpretations truly differ.

And for the record, YOU have shown that YOU were absolutely clueless on this topic before we started discussing it. Hopefully you learned some things.

I KNEW that gathering food on the Sabbath was a sin. You did not.
I KNEW that it was a sin for MORE than just the Jews time in the desert. You did not.
There is a LONG LIST of things in this thread that I have corrected you on that you didn't know before we started.

And the ONLY reason you are claiming I don't know what I'm talking about is because I don't share your blind faith.
If you can't realize that, then you're even more blind than I thought.
No wonder you believe things in spite of the evidence and proof against them. It's second nature to you...

Then if you don't believe the word of God, why do you even argue about it? What an purely ignorant thing to do. No matter what it says you are going to claim you are right. You made a statement that the bible has a contradiction and now you claim the Pharisees were right and Jesus was wrong. You can't prove it with the word of God so you claim you believe the Pharisees and Jesus was wrong. Unbelievable.

You know what I love about google?
It is a GREAT resource to help show you when somebody is blatantly plagiarizing something, like you are alias...

You don't know squat about what you're talking about, and Dylan is proving it.
You're just cutting and pasting info, slightly altered, from another source and that's why you don't know what to say when Dylan rips your statements to shreds....

http://www.christianviewpoints.com/m.../about695.html

But as to #4, the original person who posted this was misrepresenting what it was saying there too...

"(v. 21), as God had threatened by Moses, Lev. 26:34, and the reason there given (v. 35) is, "Because it did not rest on your sabbaths; you profaned the sabbath-day, did not observe the sabbatical year.’’ They many a time ploughed and sowed their land in the seventh year, when it should have rested, and now it lay unploughed and unsown for ten times seven years. Note, God will be no loser in his glory at last by the disobedience of men: if the tribute be not paid, he will distrain and recover it, as he speaks, Hos. 2:9. If they would not let the land rest, God would make it rest whether they would or no. Some think they had neglected the observance of seventy sabbatical years in all, and just so many, by way of reprisal, the land now enjoyed; or, if those that had been neglected were fewer, it was fit that the law should be satisfied with interest. We find that one of the quarrels God had with them at this time was for not observing another law which related to the seventh year, and that was the release of servants; see Jer. 34:13, etc. (2.) Yet we may consider it as giving some encouragement to their hopes that they should, in due time, return to it again. Had others come and taken possession of it, they might have despaired of ever recovering it; but, while it lay desolate, it did, as it were, lie waiting for them again, and refuse to acknowledge any other owners. "
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_d...9460-4091.html

Alzheimer's again?
YOU ASKED ME TO GIVE YOU A BIBLE CONTRADICTION.

You ASKED for this discussion.


Alias, you REALLY don't get the big picture on this thing, do you.
If a person believes as you do that Jesus is infallible and that everything he says is absolute truth, then they could come to a conclusion like yours.

But if a person is OBJECTIVE on the issue, without blindly assuming that Jesus will always tell the truth, then they ARE NOT going to come to your conclusion.

Anybody who is objective and rationale will come to my conclusion, as I don't make ANY assumptions about the credibility of Jesus or the pharisees.

No, that is not google. That is from a research bible. God are you dumb and arrogant.

There is no eighth day of the week. Actually, it's one of the few things about the traditional Jewish calendar that isn't insanely complicated. There are seven days in the week, and they are always the same.

While in English it might possibly mean that, regarding the Torah/Bible it has a very, very specific meaning, and that is the seventh day of the week, the day of rest. Occasionally things will be translated that way, but it's a weakness in English and a bit of a mistranslation.