There is no contradiction. What does Matthew 12:6-8 say? That passage says that the Pharisees were ignorant of the meaning of the law and that they were ignorant of the fact the physical needs override keeping of the law and that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath which makes him ruler of the Sabbath and can do what he damn well pleases.

You don't get that or you wont admit it. You ignore what it says because you can't admit there is no contradiction. I made a fool of you and now you are a fool for everyone watching this thread. Now stamp your feet and throw a hissy fit and call me some more names or insults like you're doing. FOOL.

Hey Foundit, I have to correct you on something. It's not a "sin" in the Christian sense t break the rules, because the Jewish concept of sin is quite different. Necessity outweighs everything, because the tranditional view is that God gives life, so if a person is going to starve to death, it is better to break a commandment than to die.

I don't know if that's the context though. I don't even know what a "pharisee" is, to be honest. I should go look it up.

You know, at times you prove just too incredibly funny for words.
Let me dumb it down for you.


1) I USED GOOGLE to find the source of your bible claims. THAT is what I was talking about with regards to google.
I just gave the link to you.
http://www.christianviewpoints.com/m.../about695.html
If you didn't get it from that link, then you obviously got it from the exact same source that that person got it from. You used the EXACT SAME NUMBERING system, quoting the EXACT SAME BIBLE VERSES.

2) You don't know squat about the bible. You cut and paste your "Sabbath" crap from another web-site or another source. You're getting cut to shreds by Dylan who KNOWS what these passages are talking about, and all I have to do is cut and paste other people who HAVE analyzed the bible to prove you wrong.

3) If you DID HAVE knowledge on the stuff you're putting out (which you obviously just cut and paste from somebody else), you would be able to discuss it intelligently with Dylan.
But you can't.
Dylan is schooling you left and right, and it is ALL news to you.


Quit trying to bluff your way through this crap. Seriously. Just STOP because you're embarrassing yourself.
It's only making you look bad.

Okay then what was it? What would you call that 70 years?

Foundit cannot grasp the concept and it is right there in the bible plain as the wart on his nose.

I see nothing in the passage which indicates starvation.
And I'm curious how "current" that interpretation is.
Is it a more modern adaptation?


Not the "best" source, but it's a start...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisee

I don't know the context, but since it's in the New Testament, it's pretty irrelevant to traditional Jewish thought or chronology.

No. It's in the Old testament.

I know you weren't addressing me, but I suppose that this does apply to me. The core of being a Jew is to wrestle with God, and with religion and to question , and to study. Even if I don't believe in a God, or at the very least a God who has anything to do with our lives, the concept of God is still very much a part of my life and upbringing.

That IS NOT what they say at all...
We have been OVER that interpretation, and you are reading MUCH MORE into it than is appropriate.

Mat 12:6 But I say unto you, That in this place is [one] greater than the temple.
Mat 12:7 But if ye had known what [this] meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

v 6: He's referring to his own greatness.
v 7: He's referring to the future covenant, where if they believe in him they will be saved through mercy. The old covenant is "sacrifice".
v 8: He's again referring to his own greatness.

He never says that he can do as he pleases because he is god.
And do NOT claim they were ignorant of the meaning of the law when the meaning has been EXPLICITLY QUOTED to you...


And again you pound your chest meaninglessly...

Here's another passage for you...

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Hope you're packing for warm weather.
Oh wait. I forgot. Your religion doesn't apply to you, does it...
Just like Jesus's law doesn't apply to him...