Really??? What were all those suicide belts for they found during the invasion? Terrorists were trainging in Iraq. You do realize that al quada is just ONE terrorist organization don't you? There are many many terrorist groups we are fighting besides al queda. The link has been fully established. I'll give you some more when I return.

What about all the suicide belts found(but not during the invasion)? Show a reliable link please. Terrorists training in Iraq(before we went in)? Please. Or even a history of Iraqi suicide bombers before we invaded. We found belts after we had been there for months and had presented ourselves as targets to the various terrorists you speak of.
Not only is the info about belts being found bogus, but what if we did find them during our 'invasion', does this justify our response and killing of Iraqi citizens with dirty bomb weapons that may kill generations of innocent Iraqis to come? Hypocritical Bullshit. The U.N. has deemed dirty bombs weapons of mass destruction. There is evidence that even our troops are suffering from the effects of our own weapons. Do we only have compassion for the bomber's victims? We are really the main threat to ourselves, other peoples and our enviroment! The reasons for our involvement change daily.
Face the fact that our government is not as just as you make it out to be.

Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties
By Scott Wheeler
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 04, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - Iraqi intelligence documents, confiscated by U.S. forces and obtained by CNSNews.com, show numerous efforts by Saddam Hussein's regime to work with some of the world's most notorious terror organizations, including al Qaeda, to target Americans. They demonstrate that Saddam's government possessed mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction, in the summer of 2000, during the period in which United Nations weapons inspectors were not present in Iraq. And the papers show that Iraq trained dozens of terrorists inside its borders.

One of the Iraqi memos contains an order from Saddam for his intelligence service to support terrorist attacks against Americans in Somalia. The memo was written nine months before U.S. Army Rangers were ambushed in Mogadishu by forces loyal to a warlord with alleged ties to al Qaeda.

Other memos provide a list of terrorist groups with whom Iraq had relationships and considered available for terror operations against the United States.

Among the organizations mentioned are those affiliated with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Ayman al-Zawahiri, two of the world's most wanted terrorists. Zarqawi is believed responsible for the kidnapping and beheading of several American civilians in Iraq and claimed responsibility for a series of deadly bombings in Iraq Sept. 30. Al-Zawahiri is the top lieutenant of al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, allegedly helped plan the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist strikes on the U.S., and is believed to be the voice on an audio tape broadcast by Al-Jazeera television Oct. 1, calling for attacks on U.S. and British interests everywhere.

The source of the documents

A senior government official who is not a political appointee provided CNSNews.com with copies of the 42 pages of Iraqi Intelligence Service documents. The originals, some of which were hand-written and others typed, are in Arabic. CNSNews.com had the papers translated into English by two individuals separately and independent of each other.

There are no hand-writing samples to which the documents can be compared for forensic analysis and authentication. However, three other experts - a former weapons inspector with the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), a retired CIA counter-terrorism official with vast experience dealing with Iraq, and a former advisor to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton on Iraq - were asked to analyze the documents. All said they comport with the format, style and content of other Iraqi documents from that era known to be genuine.

Laurie Mylroie, who authored the book, "Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War against America," and advised Clinton on Iraq during the 1992 presidential campaign, told CNSNews.com that the papers represent "the most complete set of documents relating Iraq to terrorism, including Islamic terrorism" against the U.S.

Mylroie has long maintained that Iraq was a state sponsor of terrorism against the United States. The documents obtained by CNSNews.com , she said, include "correspondence back and forth between Saddam's office and Iraqi Mukhabarat (intelligence agency). They make sense. This is what one would think Saddam was doing at the time."

Bruce Tefft, a retired CIA official who specialized in counter-terrorism and had extensive experience dealing with Iraq, said that "based on available, unclassified and open source information, the details in these documents are accurate ..."

The former UNSCOM inspector zeroed in on the signatures on the documents and "the names of some of the people who sign off on these things.

"This is fairly typical of that time era. [The Iraqis] were meticulous record keepers," added the former U.N. official, who spoke with CNSNews.com on the condition of anonymity.

The senior government official, who furnished the documents to CNSNews.com, said the papers answer "whether or not Iraq was a state sponsor of Islamic terrorism against the United States. It also answers whether or not Iraq had an ongoing biological warfare project continuing through the period when the UNSCOM inspections ended."

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You state that you believe Jesus is God, but then you balk endlessly at being labelled a Christian.

You are living your life much like Peter lived just a few minutes in those passages we discussed.


No. I don't consider myself an "expert". Most of my Christian friends could do circles around my knowledge of the bible.
But I will say that I obviously know more than you. You have shown that time and time again on these message boards, in a variety of statements you have made.
Should I put those statements into my signature at the bottom of my post?
Nah. You just ain't worth it...


I continue to ask you to prove your claims.
I expect you'll continue to refuse to prove your claims.

FYI, the place where Jehovah's Witnesses meet is called a "Kingdom Hall." Although I've never been to one, one of my oldest friends is a Jehovah's Witness.

Yeah, that was it. They don't call themselves Christians either.

LOL. Do what you like. You're a joke. I don't have to give you shit. Jehovah's witnesses are believers and they don't call themselves Christians. Do you want to argue with them also? You're an idiot and deserve to be treated like one. The only thing you showed about the bible is your complete ignorance which was not quite as bad as your ignorance of congress. You didn't even know they voted for the invasion you dumb shit. Blah, blah, blah. Now stamp your feet and whine.

Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses do consider themselves Christians. I suppose you were too busy belittling Tyreay to notice.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8034_1.html

Unless one can believe that Jesus is "lord and savior" without being a Christian... Which would be silly.

That is not proof that these documents are authentic. It says they are like other documents known to be genuine. It leaves other possibilities open and I believe that leaves reasonable doubt as to their origin.

Bullshit. They do not call themselves Christians. They call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses. Ask one.