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Old 07-12-2006, 04:35 PM   #91 (permalink)
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What's that Samuel L Jackson line?
"English M_________r. Do you speak it?"

I was not saying that YOU wrote the article.
I was saying that HE wrote the article that CLEARLY gives the DETAILS of what he was doing there.
INCLUDING the aspects you claim he was "lying" by leaving out.
He obviously didn't leave out ANY details, as his story, in its entirety, GAVE YOU those details.



He clearly established why he was at the VA on that day.
He CLEARLY STATED why in HIS story that HE told.
Yet you call him a liar for not giving that info.




That is YOUR premise for how you see the article.
He gave the FULL details.

YOU can't separate his actions outside the building with his actions INSIDE the building.
He wasn't picketing inside the building.
He wasn't chanting propaganda slogans inside the building.
He was sitting and drinking coffee, wearing a t-shirt which you don't like.
That's it.



I'm just curious. What's your statute of limitations on calling him a "protestor"?

Should he have waited 24 hours after protesting before entering the building for coffee? Or would that have been too soon?

Should he have changed all his clothing first?
If he came there on another day, and just walked straight into the building with the same t-shirt, would you automatically allege that he was "protesting"?

The whole issue of being asked to leave JUST BECAUSE OF HIS T-SHIRT is inane. The rationale by which you label him as a protestor is inane.
Yeah, okay, whatever...

You are completely and totally missing the point.
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:14 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Jefferson,

Maybe I am missing something but I think it is important. Do you have evidence that he was participating in a protest immediately before going in to the hospital? Or are you claiming that he has a history of being politically active and it is likely that he was? Or maybe you are saying that wearing the shirt was itself an act of protest? I am not sure exactly what your claim is and I want to understand your argument. Please clarify this for me.
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:48 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Maybe I am missing something but I think it is important. Do you have evidence that he was participating in a protest immediately before going in to the hospital? Or are you claiming that he has a history of being politically active and it is likely that he was? Or maybe you are saying that wearing the shirt was itself an act of protest? I am not sure exactly what your claim is and I want to understand your argument. Please clarify this for me.
Read the links I posted earlier.

It is VERY clear that Mike Ferner was NOT just an innocent individual who was sitting quietly in the VA Medical Center cafeteria, having a cup of coffee. The very premise of his story is misleading - at best. To claim that he was "arrested" is misleading - at best.

It is my OPINION, having done some reading about this incident, that THE WHOLE THING WAS AN INTENTIONAL SET-UP. Ferner provoked a situation in order to make for a good story.

But his story is BS. Mike Ferner is full of crap.


And this is YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE STUPID BEHAVIOR OF PROTESTERS OVERSHADOWS THEIR CAUSE. We might as well call him Mr Cindy Sheehan.
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