Defending the Truth

Incidentally, what the heck do you think those other two posts ("The Left, Online and Outraged") you made prove?

Those 2 posts show why the country is divided which is the topic of this thread. Let's stick to it and omit the personal attacks. Okay. If you think you have proven I am a liar then why are you arguing about it? Who are you trying to convince? If you are convinced, then that is all that matters.

Do you acknowledge that BOTH sides have utilized tactics which divide the country?
Or are you blaming just the left?

Do you acknowledge that this SINGLE example is not indicative of the left, just like the "Ann Coulters" of the world are not indicative of the right?


You made statements about being called a liar. You stated that I should "prove" you are a liar.
I responded to those statements. I pointed out that I HAVE BEEN proving you a liar.

Funny how that works...
You say something. I respond...
Get the picture?

The left is far more nasty than the right. It is the left that is dividing this country, not the right. Our country was attacked by terrorists and all the left can do is argue over who is a terrorist and who isn't and cry about listening for terror attacks and then cry about their "rights" being infringed upon. This is all political crap. We are at war and the left could care less. Itis the left that is hindering fighting this war. It is the left that is demanding warrants for this and warrants for that and more hoops to jump through. Enough is enough. Either stand up and fight or shut the fuck up. Of course the left will not shut up because the left thinks they are being patriotic by demanding all this crap. Their vision of America is not my America. Their vision of America is not the America Millions of other Americans is. The left is clearly dividing this country by their demands. Not the right. The right is trying to fight a war. Let us fight it. Stop the interference and the name calling and vote. That is how you make your voice heard.

Here is a recent example of leftist "rights" for the prisoners at Gitmo and what the terrorists used it for:

Signs of Detainees' Planning Alleged
Messages Found On Legal Papers

By Josh White
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, July 8, 2006; Page A01

Three suicides at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, may have been part of a broader plot by detainees who were using confidential lawyer-client papers and envelopes to pass handwritten notes their guards could not intercept, according to documents that government lawyers filed yesterday in federal court.

Detainees could apparently hide documents in their cells -- including instructions on how to tie knots and a classified U.S. military memo regarding cell locations of detainees and camp operational matters at Guantanamo -- by keeping the materials in envelopes labeled as lawyer-client communications. Notes that investigators found after the suicides on June 10 were apparently written on the back of notepaper stamped "Attorney Client Privilege," which allowed detainees to communicate secretly without interference, according to government officials.....

http://tinyurl.com/zp2rh

And foundit's response is???????????

It's amazing how you pick on an issue, and blow it out of proportion.
AND you blame it on only one side when BOTH have blame...
Alias?
Remember when I showed you how Congress was HAMPERING CLINTON'S efforts at fighting terrorism?

THAT was partisan politics on the right.


Actually, I see it as the left takes "at war" at lot more seriously than the right does.
The left is looking at what we are ACTUALLY DOING in this war, and the right wants to blindly follow...


Is questioning whether or not the war should actually be fought part of your "hindering the war" ideology?


Warrants are a REQUIREMENT. Plain and simple.
It's the LAW.
The right wants to ignore them.
The left is wanting to follow the law.


I've already done that, remember???


"Their" vision of America IS the American "Millions of other Americans" want.
There are many millions of Americans on both sides Alias...


So we make our voice heard by sitting down and shutting up, and letting you fight whatever war you want to without question?
Is that what you're driving at?

Your solution to prevent division is for one side to be quiet?

Why do you keep taking isolated examples and blaming an ENTIRE GROUP for them?

I could just as legitimately take Fred Phelps and claim he is "a recent example of the right"...

Generalizing the extremes is part of the reason this war is divided. Because people can't see how similar we truly are.

My god, Alias is becoming utterly rediculous. I give up trying to debate with him because he's not here to debate, he's here to bash liberals and flame other people. I have no patience for that crap. Just an example of why our country is being divided. It isn't necessarily credited to the "left" nor to the "right"; its credited to people who think they're all-knowing and are riddled with bigotry.