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Old 08-14-2006, 12:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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That is because every neighbor of Israel is Muslim.

You can defend them all you want, and even be a Muslim apologist, but Muslims hate Israel. They want it annihilated. It's part of their religion.
That's not necissarily true.


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Old 08-14-2006, 12:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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That is because every neighbor of Israel is Muslim.

You can defend them all you want, and even be a Muslim apologist, but Muslims hate Israel. They want it annihilated. It's part of their religion.

So Germans and Romans hated Jewish people because they were Muslims? The KKK?
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Old 08-14-2006, 01:16 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The European Jews had built their lives in Europe, but were managed to be moved to the Mandate for Palestine. They were willing to give up those material possessions to live in a place where they may enjoy the fruits of life in liberty and free of anti-semitism. When looking at the big picture, you begin to realize that freedom, liberty, and the human individual is by far more important than any infustructure or economy.

Life, Liberty, and the pursiut of happiness renders any material wealth rather trivial. In this quest, Israel is a noble cause. But they have chosen a land where anti-semitism would relish, and radical religious despotism would rise out of the byproducts of colonialism. For in that sense, that is what it may and is percieved. European colonialism. I personally think Israel should have been in Europe.

And to think that you would give your liberty and freedom from prejudice for materialism, is beyond me, and quite contrary to the philosophy of an Israeli state.

You're lecturing me about the materialism of Eretz Yisrael?

You are so rediculously ignorant, it hurts.

Here's the deal: The European Jews had everything taken from them, everything destroyed by the Nazis. They were, as they had always been, a people without a land, without a place to feel safe and secure, where no one could ever massacre them again. Israel had great cultural signifigance, and many chose to immigrate there, of the many places they could have gone. My great uncle was actually one of those people.

Infrastructure and economy are the logistic problems of moving, but ask an Israeli if he wants to give up his land because of some Arabs and some bleeding heart American goys. Go ahead, ask. He'll probably spit in your face. hell, I'm not even an Israeli, and I'd probably spit in your face.

Jews have been singing about Jerusalem and Zion and Israel for thousands of years, since our exile, and now we have a place where we can go, where it is safe. A couple of terrorists with car bombs isn't going to change that fact, and neither are self-righteous Americans who claim to know what's best for Jews, and who have no problem letting terrorists have their way.
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So Germans and Romans hated Jewish people because they were Muslims? The KKK?
Come into the 21st Century - or at least try to get into the 20th.
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So you've shown 1 Muslim that doesn't feel that way.

How about the other Billion?
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While I know this isn't realistic because the Israeli people would never agree to it and lord knows where the new location would be. But why not just move Israel and the Israeli people to a safer homeland?

Instead of wasting billions of dollars over there, why not find a chunk of land somewhere else in the world? Israel isn't that huge.

Has anyone already suggested this in the past?
Why of course. Makes perfect sense. Give in to the religous fanatics who want to control everything. You have no problem vilifying Christians for nothing at all, but you side with the religious nazis in their goal. What a useless pile of dung walking around disguised as a human being.

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Why of course. Makes perfect sense. Give in to the religous fanatics who want to control everything. You have no problem vilifying Christians for nothing at all, but you side with the religious nazis in their goal. What a useless pile of dung walking around disguised as a human being.

Dylan to Hevusa: "You are so rediculously ignorant, it hurts".

I know what you mean. My sides hurt every day from laughing at this idiot.

You didn't even address the correct poster.
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Come into the 21st Century - or at least try to get into the 20th.
Nice sidestep.
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You didn't even address the correct poster.
Undies still in a bunch I see.
I most certainly did. Your comprehension problem is alive and kicking. Here is my answer to your bright idea to move Israel. You and the president of Iran have a lot in common besides hating America. You both want to move Israel. Nice. How noble. Here is my answer to you from the above post. I'll help you with your handicap.

Alias to Hevusa: "Why of course. Makes perfect sense. Give in to the religous fanatics who want to control everything. You have no problem vilifying Christians for nothing at all, but you side with the religious nazis in their goal. What a useless pile of dung walking around disguised as a human being".

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I most certainly did. Your comprehension problem is alive and kicking asswipe.

Dylan was addressing "Katczinsky", not me. Talk about your comprehension problems. You might want to take a moment to re-read the post. Rumpswab.
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