Move Israel??? - Page 4

Katczinsky · 08-14-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

You're lecturing me about the materialism of Eretz Yisrael?

I'm lecturing you about human decency. Because you obviously lost it in your blind bias for Israel that you would go the effect of condoning the killing of innocent people.

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You are so rediculously ignorant, it hurts.

Thank you, and you are so rediculously biased it hurts. If the want for peace and understanding among cultures is ignorant, then I'm glad to be so.

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Here's the deal: The European Jews had everything taken from them, everything destroyed by the Nazis. They were, as they had always been, a people without a land, without a place to feel safe and secure, where no one could ever massacre them again. Israel had great cultural signifigance, and many chose to immigrate there, of the many places they could have gone. My great uncle was actually one of those people.

Infrastructure and economy are the logistic problems of moving, but ask an Israeli if he wants to give up his land because of some Arabs and some bleeding heart American goys. Go ahead, ask. He'll probably spit in your face. hell, I'm not even an Israeli, and I'd probably spit in your face.

Jews have been singing about Jerusalem and Zion and Israel for thousands of years, since our exile, and now we have a place where we can go, where it is safe. A couple of terrorists with car bombs isn't going to change that fact, and neither are self-righteous Americans who claim to know what's best for Jews, and who have no problem letting terrorists have their way.

This is a common misconception. Your argument is based on the assumption that all Jews are an entirely different race, that they are some long misplaced peoples away from home. Judaism is a religion. And if any even if Judaism originated with a single ethnicity, it is far from that now. And many now today Israeli Jews are European or of European race. The fact you can't see this is what is blocking your eyesight from seeing beyond a cruel bias.

The Jews were moved from Europe to the British Mandate for Palestine. Palestinians were kicked off their land to make way for the incoming Europeans. But ask an Arab if he wants to give up his land for European settlers, and recieving no compensation in return. Just ask him. He'll probably spit on you. He'll probably even go down fighting for his home. Hell, I'm not even Palestinian, but I'd probably spit in your face.

Of coarse the Jews have been signing about Jerusalem and 'the holy lands' for thousands of years. So have Christians and Muslims. Its their holy lands too. But just because Jews sing about it doesn't mean they are more entitled to it than Christians or Muslims. So long as there is a force attempting domination over those lands, there will be religious wars. Jerusalem should be international.

alias · 08-14-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa

Dylan was addressing "Katczinsky", not me. Talk about your comprehension problems. You might want to take a moment to re-read the post. Rumpswab.

Cocksucker.

alias · 08-14-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Katczinsky

I'm lecturing you about human decency. Because you obviously lost it in your blind bias for Israel that you would go the effect of condoning the killing of innocent people.

Thank you, and you are so rediculously biased it hurts. If the want for peace and understanding among cultures is ignorant, then I'm glad to be so.

This is a common misconception. Your argument is based on the assumption that all Jews are an entirely different race, that they are some long misplaced peoples away from home. Judaism is a religion. And if any even if Judaism originated with a single ethnicity, it is far from that now. And many now today Israeli Jews are European or of European race. The fact you can't see this is what is blocking your eyesight from seeing beyond a cruel bias.

The Jews were moved from Europe to the British Mandate for Palestine. Palestinians were kicked off their land to make way for the incoming Europeans. But ask an Arab if he wants to give up his land for European settlers, and recieving no compensation in return. Just ask him. He'll probably spit on you. He'll probably even go down fighting for his home. Hell, I'm not even Palestinian, but I'd probably spit in your face.

Of coarse the Jews have been signing about Jerusalem and 'the holy lands' for thousands of years. So have Christians and Muslims. Its their holy lands too. But just because Jews sing about it doesn't mean they are more entitled to it than Christians or Muslims. So long as there is a force attempting domination over those lands, there will be religious wars. Jerusalem should be international.

hebully started this war and began firing rockets on innocent people first. If you are so concerned about human rights, then confront those that initiate this crap. Your bias is showing.

hevusa · 08-14-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Cocksucker.

The manchild was completely wrong. How cute.

Katczinsky · 08-14-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

hebully started this war and began firing rockets on innocent people first. If you are so concerned about human rights, then confront those that initiate this crap. Your bias is showing.

No Israel started it when they sent men and kidnapped Lebanese civilians over an international border. So I am confronting those that initiate this crap. But I'm also confronting the immorality and terrorism of both sides. Something that a lot of people aren't doing.

Jefferson · 08-14-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Katczinsky

I'm lecturing you about human decency. Because you obviously lost it in your blind bias for Israel that you would go the effect of condoning the killing of innocent people.

How can you POSSIBLY be such a blind, hypocritical dolt?

You condone and defend Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations - then you blast Israel for "the killing of innocent people".

Think about how utterly stupid that is!

Jefferson · 08-14-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Katczinsky

No Israel started it when they sent men and kidnapped Lebanese civilians over an international border. So I am confronting those that initiate this crap. But I'm also confronting the immorality and terrorism of both sides. Something that a lot of people aren't doing.

No you're not. That's a bold-faced lie.

You blast and condemn Israel for EVERYTHING. You then turn around and defend these low-life radical Muslim terrorists.

What kind of pure crap is that?

Katczinsky · 08-14-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jefferson

No you're not. That's a bold-faced lie.

You blast and condemn Israel for EVERYTHING. You then turn around and defend these low-life radical Muslim terrorists.

What kind of pure crap is that?

Present to me just one statement of mine where I said I was supporting Hezbollah. You can't, because I don't support them. Just because I'm uncovering the horse manure that comes out of the mouths of the Israeli government doesn't mean I support Hezbollah. But of coarse in your black and white world view, there can't be a middle ground here when both sides are slaughtering innocent life. You anger me so much when you make these moronic statements in a move to somehow discredit me personally. You're such a low-life.

Jefferson · 08-14-2006, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Katczinsky

Present to me just one statement of mine where I said I was supporting Hezbollah. You can't, because I don't support them. Just because I'm uncovering the horse manure that comes out of the mouths of the Israeli government doesn't mean I support Hezbollah. But of coarse in your black and white world view, there can't be a middle ground here when both sides are slaughtering innocent life. You anger me so much when you make these moronic statements in a move to somehow discredit me personally. You're such a low-life.

Why not grow some balls, little boy.

Stop being such a pussy terrorist sympathizer. Stop defending the terrorists. Stop bashing a country that's trying to defend itself.

The hippies of the 60s at least had something to protest against - something to be angry about. Hippy-wannabes like you have NOTHING to complain about, other than your little hyped up issues. Why not just go back to sipping your cappaccino at Starbucks and bitching about everything American with all your little dredlock-covered pussy friends. Or better yet, go kiss Cindy Sheehan's butt. You might get your picture in the paper.

Butt-kissing terrorist sympathizer.

Katczinsky · 08-14-2006, 08:50 PM

You know Jefferson, all you have to offer is mindless, unsubstantiated, and rather stupid remarks. If you really think that being against the Iraq War is an unbacked cause compared to being against Vietnam, and if you really think that such people are backers of terrorists; then I know that its utterly pointless to attempt to talk with such blind ignorance. So I'm done with you.

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