Defending the Truth
Articles | Interviews | Politicians | Groups | Arcade | Experience | Donate
  Defending the Truth > Debate Politics > Global Politics

Global Politics Debate US and International politics here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-16-2006, 12:40 AM   #61 (permalink)
Banned
 
Jefferson's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Omaha Beach
Posts: 7,298
Points: 21,921, Level: 92
Points: 21,921, Level: 92 Points: 21,921, Level: 92 Points: 21,921, Level: 92
Level up: 58%, 429 Points needed
Level up: 58% Level up: 58% Level up: 58%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Jefferson is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katczinsky View Post
I believe I've already said what I wanted to say to you. Israel is trying to make a little peice of mind at the expense of hundreds maybe thousands of innocent lives. You condone that. There's no debating with that.
I can pretty much guarantee you that if Hezbollah, the Palestinians, and other Islamic terrorists STOP ASSAULTING ISRAEL that Israel will not respond with firepower.

I know you're a terrorist sympathizer, but there comes a time when the savages have to be stopped - and they won't stop until they're dead.

LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE.
Sponsored Links
Old 08-16-2006, 07:30 AM   #62 (permalink)
Senator
 
intangible child's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California Dreamin
Posts: 3,596
Points: 23,169, Level: 93
Points: 23,169, Level: 93 Points: 23,169, Level: 93 Points: 23,169, Level: 93
Level up: 82%, 181 Points needed
Level up: 82% Level up: 82% Level up: 82%
Activity: 16%
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
intangible child is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson View Post

I know you're a terrorist sympathizer, but there comes a time when the savages have to be stopped - and they won't stop until they're dead.


Couldn't agree with you more!



"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it." ~ General Douglas Macarthur, 1957
Live the Light, Give the Light,
Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day!


I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek
Old 08-16-2006, 08:36 AM   #63 (permalink)
Senator
 
intangible child's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California Dreamin
Posts: 3,596
Points: 23,169, Level: 93
Points: 23,169, Level: 93 Points: 23,169, Level: 93 Points: 23,169, Level: 93
Level up: 82%, 181 Points needed
Level up: 82% Level up: 82% Level up: 82%
Activity: 16%
Activity: 16% Activity: 16% Activity: 16%
intangible child is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
I really don't think Israel is going to get wiped out. The Israelis are perfectly capable of defending themselves.

Israel has superior military technology, one of the best trained militaries in the world, and plenty of motivation.
I totally agree!

Bring the U.S. troops home, Israel can take care of themselves!
Bush says Bring 'Em On, but we say BRING THEM HOME NOW

http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
Live the Light, Give the Light,
Bring Heaven to Earth Every Day!


I am not a human being having a spiritual experience, I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
Stop the madness before us it stops!
Σταματήστε την τρέλα προτού να μας σταματήσεϊ Greek
Old 08-16-2006, 12:45 PM   #64 (permalink)
Council Member
 
Dylan's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,808
Points: 6,624, Level: 53
Points: 6,624, Level: 53 Points: 6,624, Level: 53 Points: 6,624, Level: 53
Level up: 37%, 126 Points needed
Level up: 37% Level up: 37% Level up: 37%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Dylan is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katczinsky View Post
I believe I've already said what I wanted to say to you. Israel is trying to make a little peice of mind at the expense of hundreds maybe thousands of innocent lives. You condone that. There's no debating with that.
No, I really don't condone that, but thanks for actually bothering to read my post. Oh... Wait never mind.

If you feel better having your imaginary view of the conflict, instead of actually listening to someone with an opposing viewpoint, then you're no better than Alias.
My political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
Old 08-16-2006, 12:46 PM   #65 (permalink)
Council Member
 
Dylan's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,808
Points: 6,624, Level: 53
Points: 6,624, Level: 53 Points: 6,624, Level: 53 Points: 6,624, Level: 53
Level up: 37%, 126 Points needed
Level up: 37% Level up: 37% Level up: 37%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Dylan is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by intangible child View Post
I totally agree!

Bring the U.S. troops home, Israel can take care of themselves!
Bush says Bring 'Em On, but we say BRING THEM HOME NOW

http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
There are no US troops in Israel, stupid.
My political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
Old 08-16-2006, 12:53 PM   #66 (permalink)
Banned
 
alias's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wild Wild West
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,659
Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed
Level up: 66% Level up: 66% Level up: 66%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
alias is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
No, I really don't condone that, but thanks for actually bothering to read my post. Oh... Wait never mind.

If you feel better having your imaginary view of the conflict, instead of actually listening to someone with an opposing viewpoint, then you're no better than Alias.
I listen to opposing view points.........for about 2 seconds. I've heard them all before. They all sound like chickens clucking.
Old 08-16-2006, 01:15 PM   #67 (permalink)
Senator
 
Katczinsky's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,758
Country:
Points: 15,236, Level: 79
Points: 15,236, Level: 79 Points: 15,236, Level: 79 Points: 15,236, Level: 79
Level up: 78%, 114 Points needed
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 4%
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
Send a message via AIM to Katczinsky
Katczinsky is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan View Post
No, I really don't condone that, but thanks for actually bothering to read my post. Oh... Wait never mind.
Uhh, no. You kinda did. Sorry to break it to you. And yes, I read your post.

Quote:
If you feel better having your imaginary view of the conflict, instead of actually listening to someone with an opposing viewpoint, then you're no better than Alias.
I listened to your view. You think that the killing of innocents in Palestine as well as Lebanon are maybe unfortunate but ultimately necessary. That's just as radical as Hezbollah. And you can't debate with that kind of radicalism. I've already debated with you, and you seem to want to pursuade me that Israel's operations are justified when in actuality they're criminal. I'm not going to listen to excuses for crimes. Would you sit here and try to debate with someone that attempts to justify the innocent Israeli deaths via Hezbollah rockets?

What exactly have I said that is an "imaginary view"? Perhaps instead of insulting me, actually provide me wtih some examples. Your shit is almost as annoying as Alias. All you do is insult me and call my views warped when you never really substantiate those claims.
"If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72

Last edited by Katczinsky; 08-16-2006 at 01:39 PM.
Old 08-16-2006, 01:27 PM   #68 (permalink)
Banned
 
alias's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wild Wild West
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,659
Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed
Level up: 66% Level up: 66% Level up: 66%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
alias is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katczinsky View Post
Uhh, no. You kinda did. Sorry to break it to you. And yes, I read your post.



I listened to your view. You think that the killing of innocents in Palestine as well as Lebanon are maybe unfortunate but ultimately necessary. That's just as radical as Hezbollah. And you can't debate with that kind of radicalism. I've already debated with you, and you seem to want to pursuade me that Israel's operations are justified when in actuality they're criminal. I'm not going to listen to excuses for crimes. Would you sit here and try to debate with someone that attempts to justify the innocent Israeli deaths via Hezbollah rockets?

What exactly have I said that is an "imginary view"? Perhaps instead of insulting me, actually provide me wtih some examples. Your shit is just as annoying as Alias. All you do is insult me and call my views warped when you never really substantiate those claims.
Innocents are always killed in war. It is a sad reality and fact of life. That s not radical, that's a fact of war. The fact that Israel defended itself when provoked by hezbully does not make them criminal. The criminals are hezbully. They are not the army of Lebanon and are funded by the terrorist state of Iran. Those are the criminals, the men in Tehran and their buddies Hezbully. Israel goes out of its way to not target civilians. Hezbully deliberately targets Israli civilians and then hides behind Lebonese civilians.
Old 08-16-2006, 01:34 PM   #69 (permalink)
Senator
 
Katczinsky's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Columbus, OH
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,758
Country:
Points: 15,236, Level: 79
Points: 15,236, Level: 79 Points: 15,236, Level: 79 Points: 15,236, Level: 79
Level up: 78%, 114 Points needed
Level up: 78% Level up: 78% Level up: 78%
Activity: 4%
Activity: 4% Activity: 4% Activity: 4%
Send a message via AIM to Katczinsky
Katczinsky is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alias View Post
Innocents are always killed in war. It is a sad reality and fact of life. That s not radical, that's a fact of war. The fact that Israel defended itself when provoked by hezbully does not make them criminal. The criminals are hezbully. They are not the army of Lebanon and are funded by the terrorist state of Iran. Those are the criminals, the men in Tehran and their buddies Hezbully. Israel goes out of its way to not target civilians. Hezbully deliberately targets Israli civilians and then hides behind Lebonese civilians.
Yes, innocents are always killed in war. Collateral damage, I understand. But this is something completely different. Israel is intentionally targeting the civilian populace. They are leveling civilian Lebanese infustructure. They have intentionally targeted refugees on the roads. They have intentionally targeted Red Cross. Its admited! Same with Palestine. They admit to it; because they say that they should be punished for their government not taking full authority over Southern Lebanon. They said the Palestinians need to be punished for electing Hamas in a democratic election.

If Israel worked with the Lebanese government, and intentionally targeted known Hezbollah targets; they would not only be supported but more successful. They have done it before. They don't need to level an entire neighborhood to take out one missile launcher. Or I mean, its quite simple. Just release the Lebanese prisoners that are in Israeli captivity. All they needed to do is follow the law and they wouldn't have rockets landing in their back yard or Hezbollah commandos kidnapping Israeli soldiers. Its quite clear, its illegal to kidnap civilians of a sovereign state and bring them over an internationally recognized border. There are allegedly hundreds of Lebanese in captivity, but there are three that we absolutely know of and what started the immediate conflict.
"If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72

Last edited by Katczinsky; 08-16-2006 at 01:37 PM.
Old 08-16-2006, 01:42 PM   #70 (permalink)
Banned
 
alias's Avatar
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wild Wild West
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,659
Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96 Points: 26,006, Level: 96
Level up: 66%, 344 Points needed
Level up: 66% Level up: 66% Level up: 66%
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
alias is offline
Reply With Quote
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katczinsky View Post
Yes, innocents are always killed in war. Collateral damage, I understand. But this is something completely different. Israel is intentionally targeting the civilian populace. They are leveling civilian Lebanese infustructure. They have intentionally targeted refugees on the roads. They have intentionally targeted Red Cross. Its admited! Same with Palestine. They admit to it; because they say that they should be punished for their government not taking full authority over Southern Lebanon. They said the Palestinians need to be punished for electing Hamas in a democratic election.

If Israel worked with the Lebanese government, and intentionally targeted known Hezbollah targets; they would not only be supported but more successful. They have done it before. They don't need to level an entire neighborhood to take out one missile launcher. Or I mean, its quite simple. Just release the Lebanese prisoners that are in Israeli captivity. All they needed to do is follow the law and they wouldn't have rockets landing in their back yard or Hezbollah commandos kidnapping Israeli soldiers. Its quite clear, its illegal to kidnap civilians of a sovereign state and bring them over an internationally recognized border. There are allegedly hundreds of Lebanese in captivity, but there are three that we absolutely know of and what started the immediate conflict.
I disagree. Israel is targeting Hezbully infrastructure. Where does hezbully get it's funds and weapons? Lebanon or Iran? I agree with Israel. If you are going to vote for terrorists, then you are going to have to pay for it. Sounds like a good plan to me.

What is the goal of hezbollah and Hamas? Their goal is the destruction of Israel. Israel is fighting for survival. Hamas and Hezbollah are fighting for the destruction of a democratic nation. That makes Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists and worthy of total destruction.

Last edited by alias; 08-16-2006 at 01:52 PM.
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:13 AM.


 Top Political Sites
Poltical Topsites