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Old 09-07-2006, 08:10 AM   #21 (permalink)
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My problem with the left is, they have become FAR to radical. I have never seen a party take so much to the extreme. When the left does something, anything, they take it at too far at times. It's okay to not agree with Bush, that's part of being able to express your opinions. However, leave it to the left to blame our own government for perpetrating 9/11. It almost seems to me that the left will do ANYTHING as long as it will criticize this administration. There are no lengths that party will not go to, to criticize America. The radical left has gone way to far.
Agreed.

And this is ONE of the reasons the Democrats are the laughing stock of the American political system. They have no platform. All they have is hyped rhetoric and blame.
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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My rights aren't being trampled upon and neither are yours. You're delusional.
It has BEEN PROVEN that the FBI has wire-tapped innocent American civilians without a warrant, and to dispute this all you do is deny that it's occurring?

My gawd man. Why do you even bother showing up to these debates if all you're going to do is just say the opposite, and that is it?


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Playing the victim is getting a little worn don't you think? You guys really need to grow a set.
Ahhh yes. AVOID discussing the issue and instead you turn to ATTACKING THE MESSENGER.
How typical...
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Old 09-07-2006, 10:33 AM   #23 (permalink)
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It has BEEN PROVEN that the FBI has wire-tapped innocent American civilians without a warrant, and to dispute this all you do is deny that it's occurring?

My gawd man. Why do you even bother showing up to these debates if all you're going to do is just say the opposite, and that is it?



Ahhh yes. AVOID discussing the issue and instead you turn to ATTACKING THE MESSENGER.
How typical...
Scanning out-going and in-bound phone numbers is NOT the same as wire-tapping.

Will you EVER get that through your thick skull?
Old 09-07-2006, 10:40 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Scanning out-going and in-bound phone numbers is NOT the same as wire-tapping.
Man-oh-man-oh-man-oh-man.
Are you still stuck on that?

I AM NOT TALKING about scanning the phone numbers.
I am talking about WIRE-TAPPING.


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Will you EVER get that through your thick skull?
I have repeatedly stated that scanning phone numbers IS NOT wire-tapping.
I am talking about WIRE-TAPPING without a warrant, when a warrant is required for WIRE-TAPPING. Not "scanning phone numbers".

When will you get THAT through your thick skull?
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Old 09-07-2006, 07:34 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I have two simple questions I would like answered please. Why did we attack Iraq? Why, if the perpertators of 9/11 were mostly Saudis, did we not invade Saudi Arabia. My answers are this- Iraq wouldn't give us oil and Saudi Arabia will. Period.
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Old 09-07-2006, 07:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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It doesn't come down to left and right, mentioning any of this is counter productive. Right now we are suppose to be fighting terrorism. We should be able to come together and actually kill some of them. There are a few groups that are dangerous and terroristic but right now most of the car bombings and attacks, in Iraq right now, are from insurgents that are pissed because we destroyed their country. We shot off dirt bombs everywhere and have the balls to say we were worried about nuclear weapons. Babies are born everyday disfigured. And we are the noble ones? Please.
The suffering over there has nothing to do with the left or the right. We make these arguments into a forum 'about us'. What about them?
Should we really cares about such things as our political alignment while we have destroyed a country and left radioactive materials everywhere to kill off future Iraqis. We need to outlaw dirty bombs and clean up the mess we have made. Do all the left and the right atleast agree that we should clean up this mess? No one ever wants to talk about this horrible subject. Lets see how many can come up with a defense for our wrong doings concerning our littering the whole country with 600 tons of radioactive material.
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I have to disagree with you hevusa, because I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body! Sorry to disappoint you but it's true, ask my wife.
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...and YOUR evidence is a bunch of idiotic speculation, dreamed up by a bunch of nut-jobs who have nothing better to do than speculate.

Nice evidence, Einstein. And you think religious people are stupid!

I see your post boils down to you not having any more evidence to present. That is what I figured.
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Your use of the word homo only belittles yourself. And shows what religion has done to prohibit consenting adults to marry as they choose. Innocent Americans are being wiretapped without the need for a warrant. This is clearly a violation of our rights.
My use of the word "homo" upsets you and nothing more. It does not belittle me or anyone who uses it. Homo, homo, homo, homo, homo. Really gets to ya doesn't it. I can yank your chain so easy.
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Man-oh-man-oh-man-oh-man.
Are you still stuck on that?

I AM NOT TALKING about scanning the phone numbers.
I am talking about WIRE-TAPPING.



I have repeatedly stated that scanning phone numbers IS NOT wire-tapping.
I am talking about WIRE-TAPPING without a warrant, when a warrant is required for WIRE-TAPPING. Not "scanning phone numbers".

When will you get THAT through your thick skull?
...when you provide proof that innocent civilians have been randomly wire-tapped, for no reason.

Until then, as I've said in a different thread, you can kiss my butt.
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