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| View Poll Results: Renew the Patriot Act? | |||
| Yes... | | 2 | 13.33% |
| Yes, but it needs to be toned down. | | 3 | 20.00% |
| Yes, but it needs more power. | | 0 | 0% |
| No! | | 9 | 60.00% |
| Undecided... | | 1 | 6.67% |
| Other (See Below) | | 0 | 0% |
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| Website Owner Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Taxachusetts Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,514 Country: ![]() Thanks: 12
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aMFliberal mentioned that around 13 out of 200 convictions were terrorist charges. But isn't that 200 less problems out on the streets?? | ||
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| Moderator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,612
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Also, Don't forget where the President came during the 911 attacks! Godbless, Tadpole. “I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.” -John McCain "Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible." -Jamie Raskin | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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It may be 200 less problems, but they should not have been found the way they were. A man should not be convicted of fishing without a proper license because he was a terrorism suspect, especially when the basis for that was the color of his skin. The average American breaks 5 laws before lunch, daily. I will always back freedom first. Because the simple fact of the matter is, there is nothing we can do to STOP terrorism, and we can not allow ourselves to continue to live in fear, and sacrifice our freedoms out of that fear. It deeply saddens me that you'd be so willing to betray the ideals this country was founded on in trade for the illusion of safety. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Godbless, Tadpole. “I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.” -John McCain "Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible." -Jamie Raskin | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Godbless, Tadpole. “I am a Republican. I\'m loyal to the party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. And I believe that my party, in some ways, has strayed from those principles, particularly on the issue of fiscal discipline.” -John McCain "Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible." -Jamie Raskin | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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You've posted this piece before Ridin. We've replied. Again and again, you seem to assume that anyone who is against the Patriot Act is "ok with terrorists attacking our country." That is so completely wrong. It's like the people who assume that you don't support the troops because you don't support the war. Am I glad that the Brooklyn Bridge was not blown up? YES!! Am I glad there is a sweeping "counter terrorism" act that violates our rights? NO. Nothing, nothing can serve as an exception to the rights we are guaranteed. But it don't take much to get me by So just booze me up and get me high Ween | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Needham, MA Posts: 2,335
| I've read these posts a couple times now and I have to say this. I can not defend an act that violates our rights in the Constitution. I don't care what it is for. Yes, The Patriot Act helps, at least somewhat, in protecting the American people. It also allows the government to do things they couldn't do before. That's not because they never got around to it or did not want to until after 9/11. It's because they could not!!! The Republican power seized the opportunity to make this act because the country was in a very sensitive time. The Patriot Act also allows the government to label whoever they want as terrorists and immediately detain them. They do not receive the same legal rights as every other American. Why? Defenders of this act, you answer this question. To be perfectly honest, the American way is higher than any one American person and THAT'S what I'm defending. I will never sacrifice the American way for an American life. People like tadpole, who join the service and fight, they sacrifice THEIR LIVES for the American way. They don't sacrifice the American way for their lives. But it don't take much to get me by So just booze me up and get me high Ween | |||||||||||||||||||||
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As for saying conservatives are the real terrorists...haha All this stuff your saying is not helping your argument. | ||
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