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Old 11-17-2006, 11:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 11-17-2006, 11:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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You better go back and read the story again there Einstein. He was asked to leave and when the cops came back he was still there.
I never said he wasn't there.
But he WAS out of his chair.
He WAS walking to the exit.
And THAT is when the cops stopped him. As he WAS leaving.


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Also, I never mentioned blacks. You did. You just showed your own bigoted thinking process.
Because I MENTION blacks, that makes me bigotted?
That's dumb.

YOU are the one ASSUMING that Muslims are plotting something because this guy has a Muslim sounding name.
THAT IS bigotted.


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As for the rest of your liberal mental gymnastics, I'll stick with my opinion.
They aren't "liberal mental gymnastics".
They are the facts.
And your "opinion" is based on nothing but your own prejudice.
You can't show how the Muslims gained ANYTHING out of all this, yet you think the "muslims" had to be "plotting" something.


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The guy is a muslim and like a typical arrogant muslim he believes he is above the law and liberal numb nuts like you will defend him before you will defend the police for doing their job.
1) "typical arrogant muslim". Let me guess. You "know" a lot of muslims too, so that you "know" they are typically arrogant, but you lack the cajones to tell any of the ones you "know" about your prejudice????
2) I am not defending him.
Not ONCE did I defend him. He should have been ESCORTED out of the building.
While I don't defend him, I am also NOT defending the campus cops who maliciously attacked him. I am NOT pretending that tasering should be a tool for cops to invoke punishment with.
THAT is my issue.

That, and pointing out what a nitwit you are for acting like this had anything to do with a "Muslim plot" with no evidence for your claim.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Okay, let's stop dancing around it.

Why didn't the idiot get up and leave when he was asked to the first time? He didn't. There is nothing in that video that shows him walking out on his own. You are a liar.

And you also don't know a thing about what is happening all over the world. You don't think that there is a world war going on. You so damn stupid that one day you will wake up when all the shit comes down and you'll be saying to yourself....What happened? That's the kind of dumb shit you are. You defend some arrogant punk who will not obey the law and blame the cops. If the guy would have walked out the first time like he was asked to do there would be no problem. He caused the entire thing. You're stupid and a liar.

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Why didn't the idiot get up and leave when he was asked to the first time? He didn't.
I don't know. Sounds like he had a bit of an attitude.
And I agree he didn't leave when he was asked the FIRST TIME.


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There is nothing in that video that shows him walking out on his own. You are a liar.
There is nothing in that video about ANY status of him walking or sitting or anything.
The EYE-WITNESS reports state that he was ON HIS WAY OUT when the campus cops STOPPED him.

Have you even bothered to read ANY of what ACTUALLY HAPPENED there that day? Or was the ONLY thing you honed in on was an Islamic sounding name, and from there you just made up what sounded good to you???

The ARTICLE states that he was there at a time when he was forbidden from being there because he didn't have the proper "BruinsCard". He was asked to leave. He didn't.

Subsequently, the people who asked him to leave called the campus security. There was some period of time AFTER he was asked to leave, but BEFORE the campus cops showed up.
During that time, he got up out of his seat and started walking towards the door. Before he got to the exit, the campus cops STOPPED him.

This is ALL what was reported in the news article. I'm not making ANY of this up. No "lies" involved.

If ANYBODY is a liar here, it is you for claiming that a "Muslim plot" was behind this when you have no basis for saying that.


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And you also don't know a thing about what is happening all over the world. You don't think that there is a world war going on.
And this is where alias just gets mind-numbingly stupid.
He's off in his own little world, saying whatever sounds good in his head, regardless of what I actually have said or what I actually think.
Obviously alias knows better than I do what is going on in my head...


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That's the kind of dumb shit you are. You defend some arrogant punk who will not obey the law and blame the cops.
You're the kind of idiot who IGNORES MY STATEMENT in your response above about how I SPECIFICALLY STATE that I do not defend this guy, and then you claim that I am defending this guy.
That's the kind of idiot you are.
I admit it. This kid was wrong.

But with that said, the cops had NO GROUNDS for reacting the way they did.
Hopefully they lose their jobs.


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If the guy would have walked out the first time like he was asked to do there would be no problem. He caused the entire thing. You're stupid and a liar.
While the guy walking out the first time would probably have seen a different ending, that doesn't justify the cops actions.
Some idiots think that just because A happens, and somebody did B in response, that we don't need to question the validity of B. They just say that if A hadn't happened, then B wouldn't follow.

While this kid was in the wrong, the cops were ALSO in the wrong for the action they took. Just because the kid did wrong does not mean the cops response is justified.
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Old 11-18-2006, 11:21 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Cry me a river. To sum up all this rhetoric and sympathy for an arrogant muslim.......When the cops tell you get up and leave, get up and leave. End of story.
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Very true.
The first thing on the tape is the "Do not touch me" screamed comment, which sounded kind of childish. That and the "leaving this god-forsaken place" comment sounded kind of overly dramatic.
On another level though, the cops aren't supposed to touch you unless they need to.

The guy was in cuffs. There were at least three of the campus cops there.
There was no seen need to "subdue" him. He was just refusing to walk, which at best is passive resistance.

You know he'll get interviewed eventually. People are going to dig up info about him. People that live in the dorm with him (or whatever similar situation) are going to tell the cameras about him.
I'm betting he'll come off sounding like Rodney King. Which is to say, for anybody who is "listening", it won't be flattering.

It sounds like he is a student, and that the library has some specific policy for "late hours" access. I haven't heard the specifics regarding the policy, but I'm sure that will be posted too in the days to come. Whatever the policy was, it's obvious he wasn't following it.

But on another note, the additional comments from the campus cops about threatening to taser observers? That is NOT going to reflect well on them.
I didn't catch that part of it.

Bottom line: The whole thing is just stupid.
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Ummmm... what, in the wide world, are you talking about now?
Old 11-18-2006, 09:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I didn't catch that part of it.
Bottom line: The whole thing is just stupid.
That part where the video starts with him screaming "Don't touch me"...
I couldn't help but think "What a little byatch."

And from there, it just went downhill.

It's got Rodney King written all over it. (Not the riots part, but most of the rest of it...)
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That part where the video starts with him screaming "Don't touch me"...
I couldn't help but think "What a little byatch."

And from there, it just went downhill.

It's got Rodney King written all over it. (Not the riots part, but most of the rest of it...)
For the record, I do think the campus police probably went a little overboard. But I don't know for sure what led up to the altercation. It's easy enough to read the article, but articles aren't always factually accurate.

Mostly though, the little prick should just have done what they asked him to do: Show his student ID or leave. Being in college is a privelege, not a right. And if you have to have your student ID to be in the library, that's the rules - whether you like it or not. And, in light of all the recent school shootings, it's pretty obvious why "just anybody" can't be wandering around campus libraries.
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