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| Tased while cuffed is questionable. They had enough man power to carry him out at that point. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| They were saying "get up, get up" by the doorway. He was sitting cuffed at that point. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| It looks like the officers are trying to pick him up and he is refusing to stand up... If the kid cooperated with the officers, there would have been no trouble... | |
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2. When asked to produce the ID or leave, he should have left. This would have been the end of the story. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Just look at arrests at a civil disobedience protests. When people refuse to stand up, then the officers just pick them up and take them away. They don't taser them...and they certainly don't keep tasering them. The officers were trying to punish him, or torture him. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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I don't care if the kid was yelling "Allah akbar" or "death to America"; an officer's job (especially campus security) isn't to deliver vigilante justice, or 'punishment' in any kind. They have a word for that my friend, it's tyranny. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 Last edited by Katczinsky; 11-24-2006 at 03:50 PM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| There were three to four campus cops there. One individual. Already handcuffed. Offering what looks like passive resistance. The whole "he wouldn't have gotten tasered if he had walked out" line of response is missing the point. Where is the line drawn? Could they have shot him with a handgun since he wasn't walking out? No? Okay. What should be the boundaries for tasering. There was no threat to the campus cops here. They weren't being attacked. The use of the taser was only a response to the guy not walking out with the police. That's it. The guy should have walked out, but what's the proper response for the police for somebody who is only offering passive resistance? The stun gun isn't it. They could have taken him out on their own. The stun gun was satisfying for some on a visceral level, but geez these things ARE NOT TOYS. They can KILL people. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||
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