Save the World... - Page 2

hevusa · 07-30-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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I don't think it does. We are no threat to this planet. We are only a threat to ourselves, and it is incredibly arrogant to think of ourselves as being a threat to the planet. This planet has survived far worse things than us! Ice Ages, Solar Flares, Tectonic Plates shifting, Earth Quakes, Volcanoes, Meteor Strikes...

We are nothing more than a bad case of fleas, and the earth will shake us off, and be none the worse for wear...

We are only a threat to ourselves. The Liberal hippies won't admit it, but we are no threat to the planet, the only thing we are at risk of doing is killing off ourselves and animals, but the Earth and Life will go on, long after we are forgotten.

I'm well aware that the Earth will go on when we're no longer around, what I'm stressing is how shamelessly we disregard life so we may benefit. You couldn't give two shits about the millions of animals that die everyday in vivisection labs, furriers', factory farms, and other industries but if a thousand Americans die nearly as pointlessly, it's an outrage. Any waste of life for such stupid reasons is an outrage.

Yes the Earth will go on, but that doesn't give us any sanction over it. If only the Great Sequoias meant as much to us as the Twin Towers, I understand your point in saying it's 'arrogant to see ourselves as a threat to the planet', but our pride in such structures and how we hold them in such high regards -- higher than any tree or animal -- is far more arrogant.

Humans demonstrate their power over nature everyday, it's imbued in things from bulldozers to antibiotics, but from the safety and comfort of their fancy homes or SUVs, they don't realize what a terrible thing it can be.

You can't predict the future, but you can save what you know is in danger. You see Earth-in-danger in terms of total apocolypse, but you're not recognizing the uncountable number of things that make up Earth, you don't see them being devastated by the machinery of industry. No, clear-cutting a redwood forest won't mark the end of the world, but it will mark then end of those hundreds of lives which have lasted for thousands of years. Creatures all over the world aren't strangers to this sort of destruction, we've made a business out of it, it's routine to destroy life in such a manner these days, and this destruction grows exponentially every year.

Don't give me crap about animals dying. 100 species of life go exticnt nearly everyday, without any help from us, most of which we have never even identified. Sure we kill animals, and we cut down trees, that's a part of progress, and there is nothing wrong with that. I agree that we need some cnservation, to keep the world livable for us. But this notion that 'all life is equally valuable' is hippie nonsense. I am sorry a frog's life is not nearly as valuable as a humans. I don't value human life that much, I for damn sure don't value animal life more than human.

You should dig deeper.

tadpole256 · 07-30-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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I don't think it does. We are no threat to this planet. We are only a threat to ourselves, and it is incredibly arrogant to think of ourselves as being a threat to the planet. This planet has survived far worse things than us! Ice Ages, Solar Flares, Tectonic Plates shifting, Earth Quakes, Volcanoes, Meteor Strikes...

We are nothing more than a bad case of fleas, and the earth will shake us off, and be none the worse for wear...

We are only a threat to ourselves. The Liberal hippies won't admit it, but we are no threat to the planet, the only thing we are at risk of doing is killing off ourselves and animals, but the Earth and Life will go on, long after we are forgotten.

I'm well aware that the Earth will go on when we're no longer around, what I'm stressing is how shamelessly we disregard life so we may benefit. You couldn't give two shits about the millions of animals that die everyday in vivisection labs, furriers', factory farms, and other industries but if a thousand Americans die nearly as pointlessly, it's an outrage. Any waste of life for such stupid reasons is an outrage.

Yes the Earth will go on, but that doesn't give us any sanction over it. If only the Great Sequoias meant as much to us as the Twin Towers, I understand your point in saying it's 'arrogant to see ourselves as a threat to the planet', but our pride in such structures and how we hold them in such high regards -- higher than any tree or animal -- is far more arrogant.

Humans demonstrate their power over nature everyday, it's imbued in things from bulldozers to antibiotics, but from the safety and comfort of their fancy homes or SUVs, they don't realize what a terrible thing it can be.

You can't predict the future, but you can save what you know is in danger. You see Earth-in-danger in terms of total apocolypse, but you're not recognizing the uncountable number of things that make up Earth, you don't see them being devastated by the machinery of industry. No, clear-cutting a redwood forest won't mark the end of the world, but it will mark then end of those hundreds of lives which have lasted for thousands of years. Creatures all over the world aren't strangers to this sort of destruction, we've made a business out of it, it's routine to destroy life in such a manner these days, and this destruction grows exponentially every year.

Don't give me crap about animals dying. 100 species of life go exticnt nearly everyday, without any help from us, most of which we have never even identified. Sure we kill animals, and we cut down trees, that's a part of progress, and there is nothing wrong with that. I agree that we need some cnservation, to keep the world livable for us. But this notion that 'all life is equally valuable' is hippie nonsense. I am sorry a frog's life is not nearly as valuable as a humans. I don't value human life that much, I for damn sure don't value animal life more than human.

Your apathy disturbs me.
The military really did a number on your mind, huh.

It wasn't the military. My being jaded actually started before the military. My life experiences have lead to my being jaded. I think I can honestly say that the only two things left in my life that I sincerely genuinely care about, my military career and the woman I love.

onlyoneplanet · 07-31-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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I don't think it does. We are no threat to this planet. We are only a threat to ourselves, and it is incredibly arrogant to think of ourselves as being a threat to the planet. This planet has survived far worse things than us! Ice Ages, Solar Flares, Tectonic Plates shifting, Earth Quakes, Volcanoes, Meteor Strikes...

We are nothing more than a bad case of fleas, and the earth will shake us off, and be none the worse for wear...

We are only a threat to ourselves. The Liberal hippies won't admit it, but we are no threat to the planet, the only thing we are at risk of doing is killing off ourselves and animals, but the Earth and Life will go on, long after we are forgotten.

I'm well aware that the Earth will go on when we're no longer around, what I'm stressing is how shamelessly we disregard life so we may benefit. You couldn't give two shits about the millions of animals that die everyday in vivisection labs, furriers', factory farms, and other industries but if a thousand Americans die nearly as pointlessly, it's an outrage. Any waste of life for such stupid reasons is an outrage.

Yes the Earth will go on, but that doesn't give us any sanction over it. If only the Great Sequoias meant as much to us as the Twin Towers, I understand your point in saying it's 'arrogant to see ourselves as a threat to the planet', but our pride in such structures and how we hold them in such high regards -- higher than any tree or animal -- is far more arrogant.

Humans demonstrate their power over nature everyday, it's imbued in things from bulldozers to antibiotics, but from the safety and comfort of their fancy homes or SUVs, they don't realize what a terrible thing it can be.

You can't predict the future, but you can save what you know is in danger. You see Earth-in-danger in terms of total apocolypse, but you're not recognizing the uncountable number of things that make up Earth, you don't see them being devastated by the machinery of industry. No, clear-cutting a redwood forest won't mark the end of the world, but it will mark then end of those hundreds of lives which have lasted for thousands of years. Creatures all over the world aren't strangers to this sort of destruction, we've made a business out of it, it's routine to destroy life in such a manner these days, and this destruction grows exponentially every year.

Don't give me crap about animals dying. 100 species of life go exticnt nearly everyday, without any help from us, most of which we have never even identified. Sure we kill animals, and we cut down trees, that's a part of progress, and there is nothing wrong with that. I agree that we need some cnservation, to keep the world livable for us. But this notion that 'all life is equally valuable' is hippie nonsense. I am sorry a frog's life is not nearly as valuable as a humans. I don't value human life that much, I for damn sure don't value animal life more than human.

Your apathy disturbs me.
The military really did a number on your mind, huh.

It wasn't the military. My being jaded actually started before the military. My life experiences have lead to my being jaded. I think I can honestly say that the only two things left in my life that I sincerely genuinely care about, my military career and the woman I love.

Well, I can respect that. Let me say I sincerely, genuinely care about nature and I'm as disgusted by clear-cut forests and filthy skies as you are by a burnt American flag.

hevusa · 07-31-2005, 05:30 PM

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Well, I can respect that. Let me say I sincerely, genuinely care about nature and I'm as disgusted by clear-cut forests and filthy skies as you are by a burnt American flag.

Very good point.

tadpole256 · 07-31-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

I don't think it does. We are no threat to this planet. We are only a threat to ourselves, and it is incredibly arrogant to think of ourselves as being a threat to the planet. This planet has survived far worse things than us! Ice Ages, Solar Flares, Tectonic Plates shifting, Earth Quakes, Volcanoes, Meteor Strikes...

We are nothing more than a bad case of fleas, and the earth will shake us off, and be none the worse for wear...

We are only a threat to ourselves. The Liberal hippies won't admit it, but we are no threat to the planet, the only thing we are at risk of doing is killing off ourselves and animals, but the Earth and Life will go on, long after we are forgotten.

I'm well aware that the Earth will go on when we're no longer around, what I'm stressing is how shamelessly we disregard life so we may benefit. You couldn't give two shits about the millions of animals that die everyday in vivisection labs, furriers', factory farms, and other industries but if a thousand Americans die nearly as pointlessly, it's an outrage. Any waste of life for such stupid reasons is an outrage.

Yes the Earth will go on, but that doesn't give us any sanction over it. If only the Great Sequoias meant as much to us as the Twin Towers, I understand your point in saying it's 'arrogant to see ourselves as a threat to the planet', but our pride in such structures and how we hold them in such high regards -- higher than any tree or animal -- is far more arrogant.

Humans demonstrate their power over nature everyday, it's imbued in things from bulldozers to antibiotics, but from the safety and comfort of their fancy homes or SUVs, they don't realize what a terrible thing it can be.

You can't predict the future, but you can save what you know is in danger. You see Earth-in-danger in terms of total apocolypse, but you're not recognizing the uncountable number of things that make up Earth, you don't see them being devastated by the machinery of industry. No, clear-cutting a redwood forest won't mark the end of the world, but it will mark then end of those hundreds of lives which have lasted for thousands of years. Creatures all over the world aren't strangers to this sort of destruction, we've made a business out of it, it's routine to destroy life in such a manner these days, and this destruction grows exponentially every year.

Don't give me crap about animals dying. 100 species of life go exticnt nearly everyday, without any help from us, most of which we have never even identified. Sure we kill animals, and we cut down trees, that's a part of progress, and there is nothing wrong with that. I agree that we need some cnservation, to keep the world livable for us. But this notion that 'all life is equally valuable' is hippie nonsense. I am sorry a frog's life is not nearly as valuable as a humans. I don't value human life that much, I for damn sure don't value animal life more than human.

Your apathy disturbs me.
The military really did a number on your mind, huh.

It wasn't the military. My being jaded actually started before the military. My life experiences have lead to my being jaded. I think I can honestly say that the only two things left in my life that I sincerely genuinely care about, my military career and the woman I love.

Well, I can respect that. Let me say I sincerely, genuinely care about nature and I'm as disgusted by clear-cut forests and filthy skies as you are by a burnt American flag.

And I can definately respect that. Actually in all honesty, the world needs people like you. Revolutionaries to make change for what is right. And I deeply appreciate your concern for the subject. I suspect you more than make up for my apathy towards it.

hevusa · 07-31-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

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Originally Posted by onlyoneplanet

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Originally Posted by tadpole256

I don't think it does. We are no threat to this planet. We are only a threat to ourselves, and it is incredibly arrogant to think of ourselves as being a threat to the planet. This planet has survived far worse things than us! Ice Ages, Solar Flares, Tectonic Plates shifting, Earth Quakes, Volcanoes, Meteor Strikes...

We are nothing more than a bad case of fleas, and the earth will shake us off, and be none the worse for wear...

We are only a threat to ourselves. The Liberal hippies won't admit it, but we are no threat to the planet, the only thing we are at risk of doing is killing off ourselves and animals, but the Earth and Life will go on, long after we are forgotten.

I'm well aware that the Earth will go on when we're no longer around, what I'm stressing is how shamelessly we disregard life so we may benefit. You couldn't give two shits about the millions of animals that die everyday in vivisection labs, furriers', factory farms, and other industries but if a thousand Americans die nearly as pointlessly, it's an outrage. Any waste of life for such stupid reasons is an outrage.

Yes the Earth will go on, but that doesn't give us any sanction over it. If only the Great Sequoias meant as much to us as the Twin Towers, I understand your point in saying it's 'arrogant to see ourselves as a threat to the planet', but our pride in such structures and how we hold them in such high regards -- higher than any tree or animal -- is far more arrogant.

Humans demonstrate their power over nature everyday, it's imbued in things from bulldozers to antibiotics, but from the safety and comfort of their fancy homes or SUVs, they don't realize what a terrible thing it can be.

You can't predict the future, but you can save what you know is in danger. You see Earth-in-danger in terms of total apocolypse, but you're not recognizing the uncountable number of things that make up Earth, you don't see them being devastated by the machinery of industry. No, clear-cutting a redwood forest won't mark the end of the world, but it will mark then end of those hundreds of lives which have lasted for thousands of years. Creatures all over the world aren't strangers to this sort of destruction, we've made a business out of it, it's routine to destroy life in such a manner these days, and this destruction grows exponentially every year.

Don't give me crap about animals dying. 100 species of life go exticnt nearly everyday, without any help from us, most of which we have never even identified. Sure we kill animals, and we cut down trees, that's a part of progress, and there is nothing wrong with that. I agree that we need some cnservation, to keep the world livable for us. But this notion that 'all life is equally valuable' is hippie nonsense. I am sorry a frog's life is not nearly as valuable as a humans. I don't value human life that much, I for damn sure don't value animal life more than human.

Your apathy disturbs me.
The military really did a number on your mind, huh.

It wasn't the military. My being jaded actually started before the military. My life experiences have lead to my being jaded. I think I can honestly say that the only two things left in my life that I sincerely genuinely care about, my military career and the woman I love.

Well, I can respect that. Let me say I sincerely, genuinely care about nature and I'm as disgusted by clear-cut forests and filthy skies as you are by a burnt American flag.

And I can definately respect that. Actually in all honesty, the world needs people like you. Revolutionaries to make change for what is right. And I deeply appreciate your concern for the subject. I suspect you more than make up for my apathy towards it.

If only that were true. I have a feeling it is a lot less balanced than that in America. We just don't have the knowledge about it here.

Nebraskaboy · 07-31-2005, 10:39 PM

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