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| Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Omaha Beach Posts: 7,345
| Gerald Ford/Saddam Hussein Both former Presidents died this week. One death is being mourned, the other celebrated. One former president is highly honored, the other despised. One was a man who put his country ahead of his own political future, one let nothing get in the way of personal power and gain. I've just been thinking about the irony of the situation. Two former Presidents who couldn't be more opposite! | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Seattle (grew up around D.C.) Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,491 Country: ![]()
| Both were appointed by America. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- "There is no such thing as laziness. Laziness is only lack of incentive." Norman Reider, MD Morality is not contingent on religion to exist. Therefore religion only detracts from the purity of morality. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,629 Country: ![]()
| I'd rather see a country stay back and make crappy cars, than go forward and make crappy dictators. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wild Wild West Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,665
| If a couple adopt a child and he is a problem child, it's not the adoptive parents fault. He was already a problem child. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,629 Country: ![]()
| Bad example. It's the parent's fault if they knowingly let a problem child baby-sit their younglings and be a house-sitter for a week. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wild Wild West Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,665
| How do you figure it's a bad example. Saddam was elected, but I admit he was helped by the US as long as he was fighting Iran. Saddam is the one who chose to go against our interests. A problem child is a problem before he is adopted. Saddam was a problem child before we ever got a hold of him. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Citizen ![]() Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44
| and Ford owns Volvo........ Absolute power corrupts absolutely, Saddam should have been given democracy 25 years ago or at least a less powerful position. Probably wasn't possible. Old saying comes to mind - 'there are no bad soldiers, only bad officers. Saddam was just stupid, by comparison Gaddafi was clever, he had WMD and when the US challenged him he just opened the doors and the US could do nothing, Saddam would still have his power and his life today if he did the same as Gaddafi. Saddam lost everything Gaddafi lost nothing. Gaddafi was a much bigger threat to the US than Saddam would ever be. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pakistan Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,179
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THink about it dude. The US decided to supply tons of arms to BOTH countries so they could proceed to annihilate each other.. Can you blame EITHER countries to go against US interests since it became PAINFULLY obvious that the US was against both countries interests? Yet saddam needed the US to hold on to power, so he shut up and even made best pals with Bush Sr.. Iran ont he other hand was like "FUCK THAT, the US is a nation of lyin scum that will not hesitate to sell weapons to the enemy".. and can you really blame them for that? Saddam BECAME a problem child for the US. Kind alike Osama yes? Perhaps if the US quits sponsoring nutcases to do their dirty work, they will stop creating enemies. You are all completely convinced of how crazy they are NOW. Was there no indication of that before? YOu know the terrorist Osama? How many terrorist tactics did he employ against the Soviets FOR THE US?? But i forget.. that was against the evil communists ( who aren't really people) so that was all good. Saddam may have been a problem child. But what morality can the US claim to have since they obviously did not give a damn whether Saddam was a violent tyrant.. At the time he was on their side so it was all good. What superior morality can the US claim to have when it still supports a fundamentalist, tyrannical, hereditary dictatorship in Saudi Arabia. A dictatorship which terms women and non-muslims as second class citizens. A dictatorship that still publicly beheads criminals. A disgusting dictatorship that tramples human rights. Oh i know.. they got oil and they kiss american ass. SO it doesn't matter what atrocities they commit. Just as long as they keep helping the US. When Bush changed his stated purpose of the war ( the evasive WMDs) to an issue of MORALITY ( saving the Iraqi people from a dictator) he revealed himself as a hypocrite. Just like everybody else who can support the killing of one dictator while still supporting another. Saddam was a problem child.. But the US made sure the problem child got enough power to rule a nation of 60 million with a deadly iron fist. Well done ! Love for all, Hatred for none | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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