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01-07-2007, 03:05 PM
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Should those guilty of sex crimes be castrated? How bad would it have to be?
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01-07-2007, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle  Should those guilty of sex crimes be castrated? How bad would it have to be? | It's not necessary. Keep them in prison not based on a predetermined sentence, but based on how much treatment the person requires. If there is no hope, then life is inevitable. Then, on the outside, monitor their activities and make sure they don't harm anybody else. There are three known sex offenders in my county and all of them are kept under a very watchful eye by not only the police but neighbors & community watch groups as well.
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01-07-2007, 03:18 PM
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If it is someone that is just a pedophile and hasn't hurt anyone, then what right does the government have to punish them? But if they have harmed someone, then I would agree with antithesis. If you want castration, move to a place under sharia law.
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01-07-2007, 03:23 PM
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Violent rape - may not be a bad idea to castrate them. But statutory rape? No. Gang rape - sure. Adultery (which is illegal in a couple states)? No.
Child molestation? yes (as it's been proven that rehabilitation has almost a zero success rate). Incest? No - not if both parties are consenting. | |
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01-07-2007, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky So wait, are you talking about pedophiles or sex offenders? Or both?
If it is someone that is just a pedophile and hasn't hurt anyone, then what right does the government have to punish them? But if they have harmed someone, then I would agree with antithesis. If you want castration, move to a place under sharia law. | True, but sex offenders in general are known for notoriously low success rates. This is more in terms of pedophiles and serial rapists, because there are many sex offenders who might have done nothing but have sex with an underage girlfriend who was only one or two years younger. The nature of the crime, its viciousness, and the intent should definitely be taken into account in deciding on what to do.
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01-07-2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin There are many levels of sex crimes.
Violent rape - may not be a bad idea to castrate them. But statutory rape? No. Gang rape - sure. Adultery (which is illegal in a couple states)? No.
Child molestation? yes (as it's been proven that rehabilitation has almost a zero success rate). Incest? No - not if both parties are consenting. | Well put. Castration should only be used in the most extreme of circumstances, because indefinite imprisonment might be frowned upon by human rights advocates. I'm as pro-human rights as anyone, but whose worth protecting more, a known, unrepentant, unchanged criminal, or potential victims?
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01-07-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin There are many levels of sex crimes... | Quote:
Originally Posted by tristanrobin
Incest? No - not if both parties are consenting. | TR, Most Incest is between an adult and a child, so there is little mutual consent. Whatever your thoughts about the penalty and corrective measures that would be justly meted out to those guilty of initiating incest, bare in mind that by and large, there is an underage victim. OD | |
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01-07-2007, 06:41 PM
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Country: Points: 80,502, Level: 100 | Level up: 0%, 0 Points needed | | Well, if that were the case, I would say that out of the two sex crimes the adult is engaging in, child molestation/rape is far worse than incest...so that's the punishment that should be dealt.
I realize that people used to think that first blood relatives would have "idiot" children - but all research in the past 20-30 years has shown that to be untrue. Though I have no interest in any of my relatives, LOL, I don't have that judgemental attitude about incest. If some brother and sister want to live together forever, that's cool with me. It doesn't hurt my arm or pick my pocket. But, yes, they would both have to be of the age of consent. | |
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01-07-2007, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin Well, if that were the case, I would say that out of the two sex crimes the adult is engaging in, child molestation/rape is far worse than incest...so that's the punishment that should be dealt.
I realize that people used to think that first blood relatives would have "idiot" children - but all research in the past 20-30 years has shown that to be untrue. Though I have no interest in any of my relatives, LOL, I don't have that judgemental attitude about incest. If some brother and sister want to live together forever, that's cool with me. It doesn't hurt my arm or pick my pocket. But, yes, they would both have to be of the age of consent. | All evidence points to prolonged incest over several generations leading to problems. That's why royals in multiple countries had problems with hemophilia, it was a disease brought on by a genetic mutation whic was a product of inbreeding. One instance won't result in any problems.
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01-07-2007, 06:54 PM
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