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Gun Control Debate and defend whether or not you believe that the second amendment protects individual rights to bear arms.

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Old 02-22-2008, 01:51 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Garsysher : Please explain to me exactly what I have missed about Europe? Then give me a reason to take politically correct rhetoric over common sense and life experience. Then try to explain away the fact that black people commit an insanely disproportionate amount of crime without using the word "inequality". I understand socialism enough to know that capitolism is superior to it.

Almost every other industrialised country seems to get by without keeping a gun under the pillow.What are you so scared about?
Well, I'm actually not scared, I have a gun! Every other industrialized country is full of pussies, and America isn't, that is why some people need a gun. Every other industrialized country also lacks a prominent amount of blacks , thusly violent crime is lower. I am 6 ft 2 and weigh 260 pounds, I dont need any weapons usually , but little old ladies and people of a lesser stature may need one to defend themselves from rapists, burglars, and murderers. I do like having weapons though because my large frame doesnt mean anything against a 100 pound crackhead with a gun. I need a gun to defend myself from other people with guns. Why shouldnt my grandmother have the right to keep a gun to protect herself? What exactly are you so afraid of? If someone broke into my house I would shoot them, what would you do? Explain to them how progressive you are? Do what they told you? Haha.
See above. Maybe you need treatment for your insecurity? Or if it's really that bad where you live, maybe you need to move.
Haha the thing is that I'm not insecure, I am very secure in who I am, and I am a motherfucker who likes guns, I am also a mothefucker who doesnt like pussies who would rather trust the government to protect than actually have the rights to protect themselves. Pardon me if I dont have the cash to just move every time something goes wrong in my neighborhood. Maybe that is what a cowardly chav such as yourself would do, but in America, we stand our ground and fight for what's right.

Do you know who else was a big fan of gun control? Hitler.... you know , the guy who was totally kicking your asses before we intervened? He implemented gun control just before he started hauling people off to concentration camps. He took away their ability to defend themselves and thusly, they were at his mercy. That is what can happen when the government are the only people allowed to have guns. Do you see who our president is now? Am I supposed to trust him to protect my rights? Do you think we actually trust the cops to protect us here?

Seems like there are disadvantages to being tied to a set of 18th century rules written by a bunch of slaveowners at a time before electricity had been invented, and when the height of medical technology was applying leech

Well, let's see, the freedom of speech was written at the same time, and it still kicks just as much ass as it did back then, so how is it that just because you dont like the second amendment that it is now irrelevant? I mean, we couldn't have kicked your buck-toothed asses without it, now could we ? The second amendment is even more relevant now than ever, even if you are too emersed in your own world of ideological bullshit to realize it. Between an insane fuck being in the white house, police brutality on the rise, and insane criminals getting more brazen every day, there is really no further explanation needed. You just don't seem to understand that people in America just arent like other people in the industrialized world, mostly because we still have balls. We havent been castrated by the idiocy of political correctness and socialism yet. Beyond that, you are all fucking pussies. You have no balls, and no one cares what you think because of it. England is a shadow of the empire that it once was and socialist liberal ideologies have a lot to do with it. Socialism doesn't work, the soviet union proved that. Political correctness is like a new religion. It compels people to deny reality for the sake of a belief system that has no precedence in the real world, much liek christianity. You must suspend all sensory input, and dispell life experience , all for the sake of equality and fairness, neither of which actually exist. The bottom line is that most people in America will ALWAYS have guns. if you really want to push the point and make it illegal there will be another civil war, and we really dont need that right now. In America personal responsibility still has some precedence, and we don't blame inanmate objects(guns) for people actions(murder). FREEDOM! it's what makes us better than you.

P.S. The ancient egyptians developed batteries using lemon juice and copper to power electric lights in the homes of the higher classes, that was approximately 3000 years ago. There are also thousands of treatments and cures for common diseases that are derived from ancient knowledge, a lot of which was suppressed by christianity(thanks largely to England). Leeches being one of the few that were totally inafectual and thusly are sensationalised as the leading medical practice of the day, while many other holistic cures where actually quite effective.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:33 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Your posts read like they were written by a 7 year old who's been force fed the NRA handbook.

Your ignorance on almost every subject you touch on is staggering - whether its history, economics, politics or simply understanding yourself.

I'm inclined to think you're yet another ex-Yahoo troll looking for a reaction. Or maybe an out-of-work comedy writer.

Do people like you really exist??
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:28 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Hahaha, I notice that you had no reply for any of the points that I made. Please feel free to site any historical errors I have made. Oh yeah, I didn't make any, and that's why you couldn't site them. All you have to use against me is socialist rhetoric and a condescending attitude that smacks of self-importance. I notice that you have given up on attempting to breakdown my posts by individual ideals due to the fact that my ideals are based in reality and are as bulletproof as the fucking popemobile.

And yes, real people still do exist! We have not yet been brainswashed out of existence by pathetic fools who wish to project their own personal responsibilities onto the government and it's assorted authority figures. People who value freedom are still alive and kicking and no amount of socialist or neo-conservative horse-shit will ever abolish our ability to think independently of the corporate owned media or the castrated asexual ramblings of politically correct rhetoric.

P.S. Feel free drop some bombs of enlightenment upon me in respects to the fallacies of my political,economic, and historical knowledge. I'm waiting tentatively for your "european" take on the human condition. HA!
Old 02-26-2008, 03:44 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Hahaha, I notice that you had no reply for any of the points that I made. Please feel free to site any historical errors I have made. Oh yeah, I didn't make any, and that's why you couldn't site them. All you have to use against me is socialist rhetoric and a condescending attitude that smacks of self-importance. I notice that you have given up on attempting to breakdown my posts by individual ideals due to the fact that my ideals are based in reality and are as bulletproof as the fucking popemobile.

And yes, real people still do exist! We have not yet been brainswashed out of existence by pathetic fools who wish to project their own personal responsibilities onto the government and it's assorted authority figures. People who value freedom are still alive and kicking and no amount of socialist or neo-conservative horse-shit will ever abolish our ability to think independently of the corporate owned media or the castrated asexual ramblings of politically correct rhetoric.

P.S. Feel free drop some bombs of enlightenment upon me in respects to the fallacies of my political,economic, and historical knowledge. I'm waiting tentatively for your "european" take on the human condition. HA!

Comparisons between your posts and the "fucking popemobile" are definitely valid.

If you really want me to dismantle your banal, re-gurgitated, right-wing-talk-show ramblings you'll have to wait until I have both the time and the patience.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:27 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Hahaha I am a libertarian. Just because I havent voluntarily given up my testicles doesn't mean that I am a right winger. I simply enjoy freedom. Any freedom that doesn't involve infringing the freedom of others. Freedom to do drugs, gamble, bang hookers, tote guns, run down the street naked, and say whatever the fuck I want. I would rather excersise my own freedoms than entrust the government to tell me what is ok for me to do. I have balls, you don't, I am a man, you are a coward, I may be afraid of the evil boogeyman lurking in the night, but you are afraid of yourself and your own freedom. You are the castrated feeb who embodies the new Europe :

My question to you. Why do you feel that YOU should not have the right to bear arms?

Why is it that you would rather give away your own freedoms than exercise them?

But the real question here is :
If I have a gun, and you don't like it, what the fuck are you gonna do about it?
Old 02-27-2008, 10:32 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Court to address: Do you have a legal right to own a gun? - USATODAY.com

On the subject of gun control, see the above link.
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My question to you. Why do you feel that YOU should not have the right to bear arms?
I have a question for you. You appear to think that the phrase "gun control" actually means "making it illegal for anyone to own guns except the government."

Is that an accurate summation of what you mean when you you use that phrase?
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:22 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Hahaha I am a libertarian. Just because I havent voluntarily given up my testicles doesn't mean that I am a right winger. I simply enjoy freedom. Any freedom that doesn't involve infringing the freedom of others. Freedom to do drugs, gamble, bang hookers, tote guns, run down the street naked, and say whatever the fuck I want. I would rather excersise my own freedoms than entrust the government to tell me what is ok for me to do. I have balls, you don't, I am a man, you are a coward, I may be afraid of the evil boogeyman lurking in the night, but you are afraid of yourself and your own freedom. You are the castrated feeb who embodies the new Europe :

How predictable that you associate owning a gun with the size of your testicles.

Your pathological insecurity and lack of self-confidence is palpable.

You could have a successful career as a stand up comic spouting all this crap - I'm still not convinced this isn't a comedy routine!







My question to you. Why do you feel that YOU should not have the right to bear arms?

I'm not against people owning guns, but morons like you are living proof of why the creation of a gun culture is wrong and has deadly effects - the US has a homicide rate 5-10 times higher than EU nations.

I don't oppose gun ownership I oppose the gun culture, for the same reason I oppose driving at 100 mph near a school.

All your paranoid bullshit about "the government" makes you appear even more demented.




Why is it that you would rather give away your own freedoms than exercise them?

How about exercising my freedom to live without the fear of being shot?

What is it you're so scared of big boy?





But the real question here is :
If I have a gun, and you don't like it, what the fuck are you gonna do about it?
Seeing as I don't share your clinical paranoia, and am never likely to live in an area where people like you hang out, the question is entirely academic (unlike you).
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Exactly, we have a military. That is why we no longer need the militia that the constitution refers to, which is why I think no one should have the right to bear arms. It is in the same sentence of the Constitution, doesn't take a genius.

And I quote:
"A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Since a well regulated Militia is no longer necessary to the security of a free State, we CAN infringe on the right to bear arms.

You dont know that there will never come a time where militia is needed.
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You dont know that there will never come a time where militia is needed.
Under what circumstances do you envisage that necessity?
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