We're also dicussing the validity of existing laws/government.

No, it definitely does not, and cannot. We have a responsibility to use discretion when faced with such a decision. We cannot just assume we can do whatever we please; simply because it sounds good.
There have been several instances of a parent actually shooting their own teenage child whom had come home late; but the parent mistakenly thought a burglar had entered the premises.

There's no perfect solution, but I wouldn't allow a handful of incidents to thwart otherwise sound measures of self defense.
Btw, I drive a taxi part-time atm, and many people ring home 5 mins before they get there.

nuttyjoe,

The responsibility for protection ultimately rests on the sovereign individual. The police only come to bring the body bag. An act of aggression is settled between the two sovereigns, the criminal and the victim, not you. If you don't like the punishment, you shouldn't be willing to violate another's individual rights and sovereignty.

You are correct, Jen. But we still have responsibilities. I agree with your last statement; but to empower everyone to with the right to take life based only on assumption only can breed vigilantes.

And you are correct. But just how many taxi drivers are robbed every year, sir? That amount can be safely assumed to be more than a handful. But are all taxi riders out to rob the driver? No. Should this allow the driver (such as yourself) to just shoot a customer because the driver thought the customer was going to rob him? Or should there have be a reasonable expectation that the taxi driver thought himself to be in mortal danger from the rider? And reacted to the deadly act towards himself, and not the thought? That's all I meant, sir.

nuttyjoe,

In your daily life, who should be the person ultimately responsible for your grievance resolutions? Your mother?

The principles of sovereignty dictate right from wrong. In order for you to have control over your actions, you have to have responsibility, and in turn, in order for you to have responsibility for your actions, you have to have control. It is called adulthood or the Individualistic paradigm. The collectivist paradigm of a parent/child relationship changes the relationship between responsibility and control for childhood, but once a person is an adult, it becomes a master/slave relationship.

For you to get involved into someone else's grievance resolution is actually a violation of their individual rights and sovereignty, a crime.

What kind of crazy talk is this??????
Strangers are expected and invited into taxi’s, but they’re not expected nor invited into my bedroom, as such, I would always acquit anyone who killed an intruder, especially if they were in the bedroom……that said, we start running into problems with classifying where and when an innocent and law abiding citizen can act to protect his life and property….I also believe that neighbours can, but don’t have to, protect the property of their neighbours{other decent and law abiding citizens}.

As for taxi driving, if I was running the show, not only would I overhaul society altogether, but I’d allow drivers to arm themselves with a number of weapons, ie, small calibre guns, pepper spray and so on….IOW, I would allow the drivers to protect themselves from the scum that do exist, no matter that they might be a minority, it only takes one serious incident to ruin a drivers life.

FYI, there are camera’s in Queensland Taxi’s, this protects both the driver and the passenger to some degree…..so we could create a number of very strict rules relating to the use of force from the driver, and clearly, an act of some illegal form would need to be committed before any deadly or measured response could ensue.

One more thing, most police don’t give a damn about taxi-drivers, these fucks think that we’re responsible for the violence and theft committed against us……the last time I had a fare evasion, I had to stir them up to help me, and the offender’s house/pick up address was literally a few hundred meters away….you probably think I’m making this up.

There are also many more instances of robbers coming in and stealing a person blind or even killing people. I'll still take protecting myself from the robbers over the courts trying to protect myself from myself but leaving me helpless to intruders.