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Gun Control Debate and defend whether or not you believe that the second amendment protects individual rights to bear arms.

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Old 03-10-2007, 10:19 AM   #141 (permalink)
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I would vote for anyone that really had the best ideas for this country, and really care about the people,,be it a 38 year old, man or woman, red, black or white.. but you do know you can't please all the people,.
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:45 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:12 PM   #143 (permalink)
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I can...
Oh that was so my line.


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Old 03-10-2007, 12:22 PM   #144 (permalink)
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i believe in the right of the people to own guns...

that being said, i don't agree... what about people who can't afford guns? how are they to defend themselves?
Thanks to gun control laws, the .38 special was made illegal. So it is the government's fault that some people are unable to own guns. So therefore it must the the government's responsibility to protect them.
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Thanks to gun control laws, the .38 special was made illegal. So it is the government's fault that some people are unable to own guns. So therefore it must the the government's responsibility to protect them.
Well it's not as though the government completely abdicates this responsibility.
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Todd Kim, the solicitor general for the District of Columbia, noted, in arguments to the Court of Appeals: "We interpret the Second Amendment in military terms", declaring that the city would also have the authority to ban all weapons. Judge Laurence Silberman, one of the Appeals Court Judges hearing the arguments, queried: "Show me anybody in the 19th century who interprets the Second Amendment the way you do. It doesn't appear until much later, the middle of the 20th century."
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Todd Kim, the solicitor general for the District of Columbia, noted, in arguments to the Court of Appeals: "We interpret the Second Amendment in military terms", declaring that the city would also have the authority to ban all weapons. Judge Laurence Silberman, one of the Appeals Court Judges hearing the arguments, queried: "Show me anybody in the 19th century who interprets the Second Amendment the way you do. It doesn't appear until much later, the middle of the 20th century."
Ooh. Now that throws a wrench into things
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Well we could make the countries, of these illegals pay for it, or better yet, we could put them in labor camps and make them earn the money for their tickets,in a nutshell THEY are NOT AMERICANS and they have not one right in this country...now wasn't that easy..
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I keep reading & re-reading but I am still missing the qualifying statement that this does not apply to non-citizens.
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

The Declaration of Independence

I keep reading & re-reading but I am still missing the qualifying statement that this does not apply to non-citizens.
Touche.
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Old 03-11-2007, 08:42 AM   #150 (permalink)
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CrazyFlamingos wrote:
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." -- Declaration of Independence

I keep reading & re-reading but I am still missing the qualifying statement that this does not apply to non-citizens.
It says "created equal". It doesn't say anything about being treated equal.
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