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| Community Leader ![]() Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA Gender: ![]() Posts: 834
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I agree that gun control is not the answer. Rage comes from human beings, not guns. Before it was rage it was something else, likely anger, depression, frustration, etc. Helping each other handle these negative emotions might help defuse the bombs inside us. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,355
| Chris 967; we seem to think alike.Guys; I still believe we need to better concentrate our efforts on finding out the reasons this student went on this spree. After reading today's paper (4/17) I am looking at reports of this young man writing plays based on violence- he's practically screaming for help- this young man was a ticking time bomb. Why can't we notice the warning signs, people? Granted, not everybody reacts to personal problems (thank heavens!) in this manner. I believe that intervention and the lack of it was the problem here. The only intervention was from some brave students afterwards. But what happened when this individual was writing violent plays and discussing shooting sprees at school? This was the critical point where this behavior should have been reported! Perhaps this tragedy might have been diverted or avoided outright. Incidentally, while I feel very sorry for the parents of all the victims; this outcry for the firing of the president of Virginia Tech holds no water to me. If he is to blamed for anything; it would be if he provided the weapon illegally. I don't believe he could have done anything more than anyone elsecould have. Last edited by nuttyjoe; 04-17-2007 at 11:11 PM. Reason: acknowlegement of earlier quote | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,758 Country: ![]()
| No, so we can shoot Big Brother. Quote:
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And I'm aware of privacy infringements of this administration like unwarranted wiretaps...but the point I was making in the difference between our two nations is that once something gets out like them using unwarranted wiretaps, there's outrage and political opposition in Congress. But the Brits take it up the ass and in obvious doublethink manner don't even realize the cameras are there watching their every movement...or if they do they don't consciously acknowledge the gravity of it. And obviously, we have the Patriot Act, which I agree is an Orwellian piece of legislation...but its still far behind what you guys are doing in the UK. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,819 Country: ![]()
| *claps hands for Kat* couldnt of said it better myself....seriously i couldnt lol | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Green Bay Wisconsin Posts: 271
| Why is it that some people try to place the blame on someone else? The blame for this tragedy falls on ONE person ONLY...The KILLER!!!!! This is not the fault of the school administration,the gun companies,the NRA or anyone else except for the person who pulled the trigger. Granted he obviously was a screwed up individual....but it was his actions that were to blame,not this so-called American fascination with guns,not the right wing gun owners nor the left wing anti-gun crowd nor anyone else but one person. We all are very saddened about the events at VA.Tech. but trying to place blame at the feet of people who had nothing to do with this is asinine.If you want to stop gun violence,take the guns out of the hands of criminals and people who are not mentally competent enough to respect the lives of others,not out of the hands of millions of law-abiding people who hunt,target shoot,collect or have them for self-defense. Yes,I am a gun owner.I am not a criminal nor should I be treated like one just because I own a gun. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Senator ![]() Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,758 Country: ![]()
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I, personally was talking about why there is an obviously large difference between the number of killings by guns in the United States per year than there are anywhere else in the industrialized world. More tying in with the subject of the thread and not the VA Tech shootings. "If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, then have faith; if you want to be a disciple of truth, then search" -- Friedrich Nietzsche Economic Left/Right: -9.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Account Deleted Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,738 Country: ![]()
| All lives lost is a tragedy Surely others too have heard or considered for themselves the reaction to the tragic school shooting, and that by our President. His first response to be an empathy and offer to pray for the families and friends of the victims, AND his reaffirming his political stand to maintain the rights of citizens to bear arms. I am kind of sad that an event of this magnitude has to be met even at the onset with political speak at all. But then, too, I thought about it harder and realize that as devastating as this event is, we do know that the lives were taken by a crazed and troubled young man. A loner who was acting out, no doubt from deeply rooted issues of mental illness. And yet, what do we tell the families and friends of those whose lives are taken in the Iraqi War? I guess it is really no surprise that the President speaks immediate about a political issue in the wake of tragedy and loss, his whole presidency seems to be characterized by justifying political pursuits in the wake of so much senseless horror. OD | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Block Captain ![]() Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virginia Gender: ![]() Posts: 436
| It was obviously in reaction to the already evident outcry of the leftists who wish us to pervert and change our Constitution to their political ends of disarming us all that made it necessary for the president to mention anything about it. It's not "political" or "justifying" anything to stand on the Constitution that we already have. regards, vharlow SongLyricsDatabase.com! Looking for those words? Check it out! As scarce as Truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --J. Billings | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Account Deleted Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: ![]() Posts: 3,738 Country: ![]()
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I'm sorry Vharlow but I have to disagree with you. Nothing was going to change if the President would have simply offered a heart of concern and sorrow in the wake of the school shooting. He did not need to use the tragedy as a soapbox. And if you claim that the liberals did, then, he still did not need to address that. He could have simply shown some humanity. OD | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,380 Country: ![]()
| What people fail to realize is that this shooting does nothing to prove the point of gun control advocates. This kid could have just as easily gon on a rampage and run over 33 people in the street... Or he could have strapped a bomb to his chest... Or any number of other attacks that have nothing to do with firearms... People should not be so eager to dispose of their liberties... Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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