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Old 03-05-2007, 11:56 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Yeah, someone can get quite lazy sitting around his or her home wondering how they can compete with workers overseas who are willing to do the same job for a small fraction of his or her pay.

And, it takes an awful lot of work for someone to play the Stock Market Bingo once he or she has earned excess money over and above what it costs to live...that is, if he or she manages to not get out-sourced to cheaper overseas labor before they have earned that excess money.

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Old 03-06-2007, 12:09 AM   #72 (permalink)
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In a country where you actually have to work to live, I'm sure it's going to be normal to see a big gap (the lazy and those who are not)

Sure I can't stand those who have millions/billions of dollars, but those people worked hard for it and they are providing jobs for people who want to work.
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What kind of cheese would you like with that whine?
I'm just stating the obvious.

For me, personally, I'm in a professional field that, at least for the near future, there is still a good demand for US-based workers.

And I don't have any outstanding debt and I have a little bit of excess money that I can invest with for my retirement.

But, for an increasing percentage af Americans, they wear a different set of shoes than I, so to speak.

And, even though I am generally an optimist, I see rough times ahead for many Americans.

So, if you ask me, they have plenty to potentially whine about...whether you care about their future or not.
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So, if you ask me, they have plenty to potentially whine about...whether you care about their future or not.
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So, if you ask me, they have plenty to potentially whine about...whether you care about their future or not.
That's hardly the point.
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Then how do you explain the low rate of gun ownership and usage in many other western countries?

The fact is by creating a culture of gun ownership and usage you are bound to increase the level of gun related crime

It can't be changed oevrnight but it is possible to change the culture over many decades
I would explain it as being a cultural difference to be honest with you. Americans are cowboys. We like guns, and trucks, and scantily clad women. In other countries they like different things. That's fine for them. I think we can find ways to reduce gun crime, without impeding civil liberty, namely through education.
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Then how do you explain the low rate of gun ownership and usage in many other western countries?

The fact is by creating a culture of gun ownership and usage you are bound to increase the level of gun related crime

It can't be changed oevrnight but it is possible to change the culture over many decades
Well ,it could be that Americans liberals baby"s these killers,so they don't have any fear of jail,nor death row..
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I would explain it as being a cultural difference to be honest with you. Americans are cowboys. We like guns, and trucks, and scantily clad women. In other countries they like different things. That's fine for them. I think we can find ways to reduce gun crime, without impeding civil liberty, namely through education.
Describing gun ownership as a "civil liberty" is very American, very subjective and very 18th century!

Most other countries have moved on to define healthcare and tertiary education as civil liberties.

I think the US gun culture could be changed over time, in the same way that smoking has become much less fashionable and acceptable as it was 40-50 years ago

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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ---Benjamin Franklin
Ooh, I love that quote. I used it as an intro when we ran the "Benjamin Franklin True Patriot Act" as a case last year!
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Ooh, I love that quote. I used it as an intro when we ran the "Benjamin Franklin True Patriot Act" as a case last year!
Yet, didn't old Ben own a few guns in his lifetime?
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