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Old 03-08-2007, 06:36 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Describing gun ownership as a "civil liberty" is very American, very subjective and very 18th century!

Most other countries have moved on to define healthcare and tertiary education as civil liberties.

I think the US gun culture could be changed over time, in the same way that smoking has become much less fashionable and acceptable as it was 40-50 years ago

Eventually even the Pink Pistols may change their rootin' tootin' ways
I understand where you are coming from, but I have to respectfully disaggree about the idea that gun ownership is not a civil liberty. How is it not? How is education not a better alternative than prohibition? I look at it the same way I look at weed...
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Old 03-08-2007, 06:42 PM   #82 (permalink)
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can you believe garysher managed to bring up something gay in a thread about gun control?!
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Old 03-08-2007, 06:43 PM   #83 (permalink)
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can you believe garysher managed to bring up something gay in a thread about gun control?!
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He brought up being part of the Pink Pistols?
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He brought up being part of the Pink Pistols?
Yep...

Funny.
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:22 AM   #86 (permalink)
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I keep telling you America is not the only messed up country in this world,,and it's not the guns that are the problem, it the people that are trying to force other people..now if we tossed every gun in America in the river today,,WE would be invaded tomorrow, that one good reason not to give up our guns/weapons..
well i never stated that the military drop their weapons. My suggestion is merely that guns be taken out of circulation in civilian life.

fact is that Us sovereignty is defended NOT by the armed civilians, but rather by the military. So even if NONE of you were armed, NOBODY and i mean NOBODY would ever or COULD ever invade the US.

However with a lower prevalence of weapons, you might experience a lower prevalience of gun-related crime and gun realted deaths.
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well i never stated that the military drop their weapons. My suggestion is merely that guns be taken out of circulation in civilian life.

fact is that Us sovereignty is defended NOT by the armed civilians, but rather by the military. So even if NONE of you were armed, NOBODY and i mean NOBODY would ever or COULD ever invade the US.

However with a lower prevalence of weapons, you might experience a lower prevalience of gun-related crime and gun realted deaths.
I rather keep my weapons, only a fool would depend on some else to defend them.
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Yet, didn't old Ben own a few guns in his lifetime?
What of it?

That was an awesome case.
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fact is that Us sovereignty is defended NOT by the armed civilians, but rather by the military. So even if NONE of you were armed, NOBODY and i mean NOBODY would ever or COULD ever invade the US.
Complacency is the bedfellow of defeat...

And when the time comes, who will defend the citizens against their own government?
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:04 PM   #90 (permalink)
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I rather keep my weapons, only a fool would depend on some else to defend them.
I have to agree. Your last line of defense will always be self-defense.
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