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Old 12-13-2007, 11:46 PM   #201 (permalink)
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I'm off to work in a minute, but I just want to point out that no-one{but especially Gary} has eplained how they determine right from wrong, other than by leaving it up to God/existing laws.

So can anyone tell me how they determine right from wrong in an objective sense?

If it's okay for the cops to shoot fleeing property stealing crims, why isn't it okay for homeowners and neigbours?.....remember, obeying basic moral laws overcomes all these problems.

Allowing people the option of shooting burglars should dramatically reduce crime, but favouring the status quo would presumably mean crime levels either remained the same or increased, IOW, those who favour the existing laws, also favour criminals routinely breaking and entering, stealing, and any possible additional criminal activity, ie, rape, murder, violence.

Even though I don't like the idea of shooting a 17yr old kid with a few of my DVD's, if that's what it took to eliminate or dramatically reduce crime, then I'm in.

Joe Horn is not guilty.
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:09 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Well, hopefully you've seen the YouTube. He is one of the few comedians I enjoy watching.
Yup, I remember him. That bit is a classic.
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Yup, I remember him. That bit is a classic.
Yessir, he was on Bill Cosby once in the 1970's or 1980's and he danced as well as doing his usual comedy. Boy, he was fun to watch.

Like the 1950's comedian Bill Dana who created Jose Jimenez in the early space program, Bill Saluga was impressive with his creation of R.J. Johnson (or whatever).
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:00 AM   #204 (permalink)
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A Jew is only one that believes, promotes and defends, collectivism (Judaism). Since you have the Jewish mentality, why aren't you proud to call yourself a Jew?
Because that is not the definition of a Jew. It's a definition you made up to try and make your feeble, misinformed "point".

Collectivism is "the giving of priority to a group over each individual in it".

Whilst you might be able to make a tortured case for that being true of Judaism, it is in no way exclusive to Judaism.

Nor is a collectivist mentality a uniquely Jewish phenomenon.

When did you first realise you were rabidly anti-semitic?
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Old 12-14-2007, 01:08 PM   #205 (permalink)
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Because that is not the definition of a Jew. It's a definition you made up to try and make your feeble, misinformed "point".

Collectivism is "the giving of priority to a group over each individual in it".

Nor is a collectivist mentality a uniquely Jewish phenomenon.

When did you first realise you were rabidly anti-semitic?
More evasion Gary, we're still waiting for you to explain how you determine right from wrong....we've only asked you 6 or 7 times, yet, here you are yapping away like you've got both moral and intellectual credibility.

The fact is, you and your mates support crims rights ahead of innocent law abiding people's rights....so how dare you speak to us with less than utmost respect you intellectual peasant!!!

Anti-semite translates as...."whatever you do, don't criticize the Jews over anything, but by all means, criticize every other group till the cows come home".

You're nuthin but a stereotypical and transparent Jew......one who shoots the messenger, evades legitimate questions, and rarely engages in civilized discussions.

You offer nothing interesting or original, nor do you appear to have the capacity to think critically....matter of a fact, your speciality seems to be regurgitating Jewish ideology and throwing low level ad homs at high level truthseekers.
Old 12-14-2007, 01:28 PM   #206 (permalink)
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More evasion Gary, we're still waiting for you to explain how you determine right from wrong....we've only asked you 6 or 7 times, yet, here you are yapping away like you've got both moral and intellectual credibility.

The fact is, you and your mates support crims rights ahead of innocent law abiding people's rights....so how dare you speak to us with less than utmost respect you intellectual peasant!!!

Anti-semite translates as...."whatever you do, don't criticize the Jews over anything, but by all means, criticize every other group till the cows come home".

You're nuthin but a stereotypical and transparent Jew......one who shoots the messenger, evades legitimate questions, and rarely engages in civilized discussions.

You offer nothing interesting or original, nor do you appear to have the capacity to think critically....matter of a fact, your speciality seems to be regurgitating Jewish ideology and throwing low level ad homs at high level truthseekers.
I've noticed that JeniferHenry never seem to read or absorb responses before rushing off some potted, dimwitted attack-post.

If you want to stimulate a discussion on the differences between right and wrong I suggest you start a new thread.

Let's see if you can frame the question in such a way as to provoke debate and attract other posters.

Rather than throw out an abstract question and stay crouched down ready to spring forth with your snappy but nonsensical little one-liners!

Perhaps you can rise above your current taxi-driving troll status, but the jury is still out.

Not sure why you keep thinking I'm Jewish, but based on your crackpot "logic" I suppose anything is possible.
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Harris homeowner kills burglary suspect | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

More news on Joe Horn and another homeowner shot and kills a burglar in his house.
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:45 PM   #208 (permalink)
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Harris homeowner kills burglary suspect | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

More news on Joe Horn and another homeowner shot and kills a burglar in his house.
That case looks a lot more like self-defence, the burglar had broken a window and was entering a house at 2:15 am, when the house owner shot him. I'm sure he will be vindicated, and quite rightly, in protection of his wife and two children as well as himself.

Unlike Joe Horn:

"The two, Colombian citizens who were in this country illegally, were confronted by Horn in his front yard after a police dispatcher told Horn not to go outside with his shotgun. Police said both men were shot in the back and died at the scene."

Telling the police "I'm gonna kill them" seconds before shooting them in the back - it will be hard to portray that as self defence.

Unless some of the more uncivilised members of this board end up on the jury...............
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Because that is not the definition of a Jew. It's a definition you made up to try and make your feeble, misinformed "point".
Reality defines what a Jew is, not the dogma. You can't use the dogma to prove the dogma, "one is born a JEW", is true. That would be like me writing a book about dragons and then you using my book to prove the existence of dragons. The biological reproductive process proves NO ONE is born a JEW. The dogma is nothing more than a collectivist control system, based on LIES!

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Whilst you might be able to make a tortured case for that being true of Judaism, it is in no way exclusive to Judaism.

Nor is a collectivist mentality a uniquely Jewish phenomenon.

Give me another dogma that predates Judaism that forces one to be born into a dogma of collectivism? Show me a dogma where one "has to be born" of a Jewish Mother to be considered a Jew, and a child born of a Jewish father and a non-Jewish mother is not. That is the bases for the concept of race.
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When did you first realise you were rabidly anti-semitic?
Anti-Semitic is only what a Jew hates. Semitic is only another racial term for a Jew, projecting your own belief in race (Judaism). Thanks for exposing your Jewish (race supremacist) mentality. NOW it is confirmed you have the Jewish mentality (believe, defend, and promote).
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If you want to stimulate a discussion on the differences between right and wrong I suggest you start a new thread.
It is the basis for this discussion. What is right and wrong and who gets to make the rules. Is that too hard for you to understand?
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