Defending the Truth

Why not ask the mods to check?
Btw, we do know each other, but what's that got to do with your inability to properly defend your arguments?

Or answer a simple but important question. The basis for one's actions is dictated by what they perceive to be the difference between right from wrong. Most people will try anything once, to their death. But, like they say: first time shame on them, second time, shame on me.

perception or fact? can you provide a source or just say it is your opinion?

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Also, I live in Arkansas. I know way too many three toothed, inbred, backwoods rednecks who would love this type of law simply to, and I quote, "keep them damn w**b**** off my property!". Too many of them are just a little too eager to shoot someone for my liking.

your one-dimensional stereotyping is amusing. If I met anyone you describe I would disagree with them

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The citizenry protecting itself is one thing, but how does shooting a teenager who is running away extrapolate into 'protecting yourself'. Where was the threat?

A teenager who was running away was shot? What did the teenager do and why was he/she running away?

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At what point does 'street justice' become anarchy?

good question. like obscenity, I know it when I see it. (a supreme court justice uttered those very words)

Actually since it seems these men DID rob the neighbors house, I think he was justified in blowing them away. Or at least attempting to. Why should the cops have all the fun?

fxashun, is not so much a Resident A-hole, as it is a bore?

why do people feed trolls like it?

I mean, I believe we are all trolls on one level or another, but why play with such trolls with no intelligence and less creativity?

Hey, I feel if I'm gonna be jerked around I want to at least get a laugh or a rise out of it.

Let me show you how you treat a honest troll that REALLY has no creativity or intelligence.......

CNN — LOU DOBBS TONIGHT — Aired December 11, 2007 - 19:00 ET

BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The tape of Joe Horn's 911 call on November 14th makes it very clear he was witnessing a burglary. ...The police expect to hand over to the Harris County district attorney the results of their investigation on the incident next week. From there, it will be up to a grand jury to decide whether to indict Mr. Horn. If he is charged, Texas law might be his best defense as it provides broad latitude for the use of force in protecting property.

PROF. GEORGE DIX, UNIV. OF TEXAS LAW SCHOOL: What it amounts to is essentially a right to use deadly force if it's necessary to prevent a thief who committed burglary in the process of committing theft from escaping with the proceeds of that crime.

TUCKER: Section 931 provides for self-defense. Section 941 provides for protecting personal property. Section 942 allows for deadly force in protecting any property and specifically to prevent, quote, "fleeing immediately after committing burglary". And Section 943 allows for the protection of a third person's property. The shooting sparked a protest with a mix of Horn supporters and activists who believe Mr. Horn went too far.

QUANELL X, NEW BLACK PANTHER NATION: You have so many people in Mr. Horn's community who are calling him a hero. How could you call a man a hero that goes outside and will shoot two unarmed men in the back, one twice and one once? And they were fleeing and running from him. When someone is running from you, and you shoot them in the back with a shotgun, and they are unarmed, you are not a hero.

TUCKER: The New Black Panther Nation promises that if Mr. Horn is not indicted, there will be massive protests.

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TUCKER: Now, Wednesday night, the group will be holding meetings with community activists to organize more protests. No word on when those protests might occur, it could be a few weeks before a grand jury hears the case and makes a decision, Lou, about whether to indict or not.

DOBBS: Now we want to make clear. We asked Mr. X, Quanell X, to join us here on this broadcast, and he was unable to make it. We hope he will be with us soon. The idea that this would create protests, this shooting, which is under — obviously, envisioned under Texas law, is really remarkable.

TUCKER: Well, it's very interesting. Mr. X's position is he shouldn't have gone and acted as judge, jury and executioner in this case.

DOBBS: Well what is Quanell X doing? He's making — he's coming to a determination that he acted wrongfully.

TUCKER: Well it is interesting when you talk to him because he does say — Mr. — in this case he was being a good neighbor and called the cops in turning this guy in. He just shouldn't have gone as far as he did in terms of going out and shooting the unarmed men. But you know, Texas law is — we went through in the piece, looks like it's pretty firmly on this guy's side. So, this will be interesting as this case moves forward.

DOBBS: Well it is interesting, but at the same time, I mean, the idea that Texas law envisions precisely this, makes allowances for it, in fact, encourages, through this law, protection of property, you know, you can hear it in Mr. Horn's voice. He says, you know, this ain't right, buddy, and you know what? He's living in a city where the burglary rate is up considerably. You got to wonder about a man who has the guts to walk out that door. He doesn't know whether they are armed or not.

TUCKER: No, he doesn't and it is refreshing when you listen to it. Here is a guy who is not going to sit there. He is going to go out, and he's going to do something. 61 years old. He goes out and confronts two men he just has witnessed burglarize his neighbor's house, and he doesn't know what's going to happen.

DOBBS: The shame is, these two men, suspected of being part of a serial ring of burglars, correct?

TUCKER: They are suspected of it. Police say, they don't have any evidence that firmly ties them to any of that. They do know that one of the men who was shot and killed was carrying false identification ...

DOBBS: You referred to the fact they were Latino. And point of fact, in broadcast standards, I would say, the standards of this broadcast, it would not be relevant to bring up a person's race in reporting on a burglary or a shooting of any kind, but this has become a racial issue, in the Houston area.

TUCKER: It has, and you are right. It was immaterial, but it is part of the case and it is part of the protest, saying this is a white neighborhood and a white guy that went over the edge and went too far because they weren't white.

DOBBS: According to the protesters.

TUCKER: According to protesters.

DOBBS: Right. And, other protesters who say —

TUCKER: Well, his neighbors think he's a hero. Wouldn't you like it if a neighbor protected your property?

DOBBS: I think that is the question, and the community standards what will apply, if the law is followed here in the state of Texas. That saying, don't mess with Texas, it sounds pretty apt right now, doesn't it?

TUCKER: It does seem to fit, doesn't it?

DOBBS: The idea that he would get death threats and you know protests at his home, people are really getting — this country is really getting so deep in group and identity politics that people can't think straight. Appreciate it. Bill Tucker, thank you. We'll have more.

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CNN Poll

Do you believe Americans are entitled to use deadly force to protect their homes and the homes of their neighbors from burglars?

Yes 94% 13747

No 6% 927

Total Votes: 14674

Count my vote as part of the 94%.

And if any "Black" group protests in support of these Hispanic criminals, it should be an embarrassment to Black people all over the country. With all the issues we have, is this the best cause they have to champion?