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Old 12-12-2007, 12:35 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Lou Dobbs’ in the Express Lane
The supermarket parking lot was packed, so I took out my handicapped sign and parked first row.

My basket fully stocked, I noticed all the check out stands were slammed, while the express lane only had 2 people waiting. I had way more than 15 items, but got in line anyway.

The cashier was chatting away with the old lady ahead of me, who took out her checkbook, and began to write. CASH ONLY! I interrupted. Both glanced at my basket. Exposed as having no right to be in the lane myself, I stared down the two of them. When my turn came to check out, there was no banter, only silence.

On the way out, a car was parked right outside the store. It looked like the driver had pulled up to the front to load groceries, instead of doing it in his parking spot. Still annoyed from the express lane, I walked over, ready to comment on his behavior. HEY, NUMBNUTZ! I spat at him when I noticed he was loading up a wheel chair. Apparently, all handicapped spaces were full.

Mumbling, I faked a limp all the way to my truck. In a daze of anger, mixed with self-loathing, I pulled out of the parking lot. As I was gathering speed, I suddenly had to slam my breaks to avoid hitting the car in front of me. Fuming, I leaned out my window and gave the driver the finger as I yelled FUUUCK YOU in righteous anger. In the car sat a woman, two little kids in the back looked at me in horror. Terrified, one of them started crying.

Now I felt like an asshole.

It wasn’t very long however, until the guilt subsided.
Shrewdly, my ego negotiated with my conscience. “Come on, if I had less then 15 items, the hag would still have held me up. Everyone uses handicapped parking. And the woman was endangering her kids driving like that. Stop beating yourself up, the ego said. FUCK them. They had it coming”. My ego is articulate.
The handicapped guy never even entered my head.

By the time I got home I was done reflecting on myself, and ready to relax.
I turned on the TV. All the news channels carried the story of a guy in Texas that shot and killed two burglars, while on the phone with 911. A recording of the operator pleading with the homeowner not to go outside was played over and over.

Presented with a once in a lifetime opportunity, the guy couldn’t resist. Unable to bear watching them get away carrying a bag of loot, he went outside and shot them in the back with righteous anger. Guilt ridden, he exclaimed “I had no choice!”.

Soon, the story of a hero, attacked in his own home by illegal criminals spread, and prompted Lou Dobbs to recommend the guy for a medal.

CNN broke down the event to a suggestive yes or no question of the day:
“Do you believe Americans are entitled to use deadly force to protect their homes and the homes of their neighbors from burglars?”

With the home beyond protecting, and the criminals on the run, the question could just as easily have been: Do you believe Americans are entitled to execute burglars on the spot?”

The homeowner never got a chance to self-reflect.
When Lou Dobbs volunteered as negotiator for his ego, his conscience didn’t stand a chance. “Come on, these burglars were illegal aliens, had criminal records, and broke into a house in broad daylight. PLEASE. They had it coming. The actual definition of self-defense never entered Dobbs’ head.

In the future as seen by Nostraboris:

Lou Dobbs’ head actually explodes on live TV.
Minutemen go on drive-by shootings at Home Depot without getting prosecuted.

I will continue to be unforgiving to those that trespass against me, but as long as I have an articulate ego, I am humble enough no to pull a gun on ‘em.

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Old 12-12-2007, 05:22 PM   #72 (permalink)
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No surprise that Lou Dobbs favours the cold-blooded slaughter of unarmed burglars.
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Do you believe Americans are entitled to use deadly force to protect their homes and the homes of their neighbors from burglars?

Yes 94% 13747

No 6% 927

Total Votes: 14674
Your emotive sounding language doesn't appear to be having an impact on the general public.
One cannot commit cold blooded slaughter whilst protecting life or property.
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Your emotive sounding language doesn't appear to be having an impact on the general public.
One cannot commit cold blooded slaughter whilst protecting life or property.
Exactly, the aggressor makes his bed. And by no surprise to anyone, they both are now lying in it. Like the saying goes, one has a better chance with a jury of 12, than an aggressor that has already made up their mind to violate you.
Old 12-12-2007, 05:44 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Your emotive sounding language doesn't appear to be having an impact on the general public.
One cannot commit cold blooded slaughter whilst protecting life or property.

People who respond to emotive sounding polls on Lou Dobbs show can hardly be described as the "general public"!

And yes, one certainly CAN commit cold blooded slaughter whilst protecting life or property.

Even the police were telling this bloodthirsty cowboy that it's not worth taking a life for material possessions.

It remains to be seen whether the redneck Horn has to go to trial and thence to prison for his criminal actions.
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And yes, one certainly CAN commit cold blooded slaughter whilst protecting life or property.
Only when you favour criminals over law abiding citizens.

And how does one commit murder when trying to protect themselves?
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Only when you favour criminals over law abiding citizens.

Why do you think that?

I think the problem is that you favour a return to the wild west by preferring vigilante "justice" over the rule of law.





And how does one commit murder when trying to protect themselves?
When the burglars were already fleeing self-protection is a moot point..
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Actually since it seems these men DID rob the neighbors house, I think he was justified in blowing them away. Or at least attempting to. Why should the cops have all the fun?
See as the dead people were never convicted of a crime and won't be as it stands now some guy in Texas saw 2 black people (they were black Colombians) in his neighbors’ yard and assumed they were up to no good. The fact they were up to no good is for the police and legal system to establish. Shot whilst black is what happened. Makes you want to make sure your kid never goes to that neighborhood doesn't it??

And I don't care they robbed the house. Look up presumption of innocence and due process and stop being ignorant.
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And yes, one certainly CAN commit cold blooded slaughter whilst protecting life or property.

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Here's your previous comment.....so do we have the right to protect ourselves from predators or not?
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And I don't care they robbed the house. Look up presumption of innocence and due process and stop being ignorant.
What do you mean you don't care that they robbed the house.....do you also not care that crims rape people?
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Only when you favour criminals over law abiding citizens.

And how does one commit murder when trying to protect themselves?

The guy was in his house and left his house with a gun. He was not in danger, so what are you saying?? A human life is worth less then a TV?? That is why we have insurance and that is just a sick thought. I don't care they were robbing a house what they were doing is up to the LEGAL system not some hot head with a gun to establish. The police where on their way and the guy sought these people out with the intention of shooting them he had no idea why they were there either..he assumed they were robbing the house (and they of course happen to be)..but what would happen if they were not indeed robbing the house?? Look up presumption of innocence, killing in self defence and due process and stop being ignorant
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