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Gun Deaths in Alabama in 2003: 765


Mayors Against Illegal Guns: Regional Coalition Meeting November 30, 2006 Atlanta, Georgia

Gun Deaths in Alabama in 2004: 679

Legal Community Against Violence


Alabama's population is approximately 4.5 million.

Population of Alabama

Now we know why you have been disarmed. "say you want a revolution, well you know.............."



On St George's Day, EU wipes England off map


By Robert Winnett, Deputy Political Editor

Last Updated: 2:43am BST 24/04/2008



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England has been wiped off a map of Europe drawn up by Brussels bureaucrats as part of a scheme that the Tories claim threatens to undermine the country's national identity.
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The Manche region as mapped
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The new European plan splits England into three zones that are joined with areas in other countries.
The "Manche" region covers part of southern England and northern France while the Atlantic region includes western parts of England, Portugal, Spain and Wales.
The North Sea region includes eastern England, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and parts of Germany.
A copy of the map, which makes no reference to England or Britain, has even renamed the English Channel the "Channel Sea".

Each zone will have a "transnational regional assembly", although they will not have extensive powers. However, the zones are regarded as symbolically important by other countries.



German ministers claimed that the plan was about "underlying the goal of a united Europe" to "permanently overcome old borders" at a time when the "Constitution for Europe needs to regain momentum".
The Tories are drawing attention to the plan today, St George's Day. Eric Pickles, the shadow secretary of state for communities and local government, said: "We already knew that Gordon Brown had hoisted the white flag of surrender to the European constitution.
"Now the Labour government has been caught red-handed, conspiring with European bureaucrats to create a European super-state via the back door."
The disclosure of the European map comes as a YouGov poll commissioned by The Daily Telegraph showed that one third of people want England to have its own parliament.
Twenty per cent want England to be an independent country and for Britain to be broken up.

On St George's Day, EU wipes England off map - Telegraph


All those men women and children who are dead at the hands on Nazi Germany, and you all are going to let Germany take over the place anyway. A damn shame.

Relax Grace it's just a scare piece from the Daily Telegraph!

The European Constitution has been rejected by referendums in Denmark and France. Yes even the French don't want it!

The British won't even bother to hold a referendum because it's a complete non-starter.

So don't worry - There'll Always Be An England!

Here is a more relevant news story for this thread......

Inmate Count in U.S. Dwarfs Other Nations’
By ADAM LIPTAK NY Times April 23, 2008

The United States has less than 5 percent of the world’s population. But it has almost a quarter of the world’s prisoners.

The nation’s relatively high violent crime rate, partly driven by the much easier availability of guns here, helps explain the number of people in American prisons.

“The assault rate in New York and London is not that much different,” said Marc Mauer, the executive director of the Sentencing Project, a research and advocacy group. “But if you look at the murder rate, particularly with firearms, it’s much higher.”

Despite the recent decline in the murder rate in the United States, it is still about four times that of many nations in Western Europe.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.

The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King’s College London.

China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison.

The United States comes in first, too, on a more meaningful list from the prison studies center, the one ranked in order of the incarceration rates. It has 751 people in prison or jail for every 100,000 in population. (If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up.)

The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people. The others have much lower rates. England’s rate is 151; Germany’s is 88; and Japan’s is 63.

The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate.

Criminologists and legal experts here and abroad point to a tangle of factors to explain America’s extraordinary incarceration rate: higher levels of violent crime, harsher sentencing laws, a legacy of racial turmoil, a special fervor in combating illegal drugs, the American temperament, and the lack of a social safety net. Even democracy plays a role, as judges — many of whom are elected, another American anomaly — yield to populist demands for tough justice.

“Far from serving as a model for the world, contemporary America is viewed with horror,” James Q. Whitman, a specialist in comparative law at Yale, wrote last year in Social Research.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/us/23prison.html

They worked there away around that.
Treaty of Lisbon

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The Treaty of Lisbon (also known as the Reform Treaty) is a treaty signed on 13 December 2007 in Lisbon, Portugal. It alters how the European Union (EU) works through a series of amendments to the Treaty on European Union (TEU, Maastricht) and the Treaty establishing the European Community (TEC, Rome), the latter being renamed Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU). The two consolidated treaties would form the legal basis of the Union, and combined constitute most of the content of the rejected European Constitution.
The most prominent innovations of the Treaty of Lisbon are arguably the scrapping of the pillar system, reduced chances of stalemate in the EU Council through more qualified majority voting, a more powerful European Parliament through extended codecision with the EU Council, as well as new tools for more coherent policies, such as a long-term President of the European Council and a High Representative for Foreign Affairs. (see more below)
The Treaty of Lisbon is scheduled to be ratified in all Member States by the end of 2008, in time for the 2009 European elections.

I would certainly agree that the UK is becoming more and more like the US, so it may be only a matter of time before our police are armed. Who knows?

However, perhaps it would be more productive to do a bit of crystal ball gazing. As US world influence declines and that of the likes of China increases, perhaps we should look to what China is like to get an idea of what future gun crime might be like in the UK - or even the US. It will more likely be China that influences the future world, not the US or 'the west'.

Some people, including many right wing wacko evangelicals, talk of the European Constitution as some sinister conspiracy which will force EU members to comply with its edicts, and will eventually be replicated in North America, as a move toward a "one world government".

In fact, the EU Constitution “is said to be subsidiary to member states and can act only in those areas where "the objectives of the intended action cannot be sufficiently achieved by the member states but can rather... be better achieved at Union level."

The principle is established that the Union derives its powers from the member states.”

BBC NEWS | Europe | What the EU constitution says

In other words, member states who ratify the EU Constitution are not surrendering any sovereignty. Furthermore, only 13 of 25 EU members have ratified the EU Constitution so far, primarily smaller countries that stand to benefit from consolidation.

Many mainstream evangelist whacko's are seriously convinced that the Anti-Christ will rise as a leader of the EU.

What do we Americans have to fear from a foreign union of states that is weaker than our former Articles of Confederation?

Conservatives (not so much in the political context of the word) are deathly afraid not of globalization as an expansion of markets, but rather globalization as a cultural and communication bridge between societies. It is a backward xenophobic mentality that would rather preserve their closed and sheltered lifestyles over the possible abdication of national conflict through peaceful resolution. The character of the anti-Christ characterizes this fear, as a eloquent leader that leads the nations of the world to peace.

That's a crock of shit. Gun laws were actually relaxed under Nazi Germany from the laws of the former Weimer Republic that governed Germany before Hitler's rise to power.