Well gun hater you like to use the word troll. You gun hater fit perfectly the definition of the word troll!

You have failed to produce any law, edit, rule, or regulation stating a person must be in a militia.

Hey gun hater we were just outside watching an old B17 flying fortress fly over the house. We even fly on it once. That there was an weapon of war. At one time the gun haters wanted to ban people from having these on the grounds that the gun haters claimed people do not have a right to have military hardware.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

You keep making the same stupid mistakes in "logic".
If A then B does not mean the same thing as If not A, then not B.

The second amendment guarantees a right to bear arms for members of the militia.
That IS NOT the same thing as saying that people must be in the militia in order to have firearms.

It's like saying that a health care program is guaranteed to those over 65.
That doesn't mean that other people who are under 65 aren't eligible to be a part of the health care program. It just means that they aren't guaranteed to be eligible for it.


We aren't "picking and choosing".
Under our interpretation, both the "militia" and the "people" are important and have roles in the 2nd amendment.
Under your interpretation, you focus myopically and exclusively on "people".


Again, the fact that "the people" and "well regulated militia" ARE BOTH present in the 2nd amendment is important.


You poor simpleton.
Just because people CAN do something doesn't make that thing a right.
People CAN adopt, but adoption is a PRIVILEGE. Not a "right".

The fact that people have always been able to buy guns demonstrates NOTHING about whether or not owning a gun is a right.
It just means it is a PRIVILEGE that the American people have always had.


YOU CLAIM a right is infringed upon.
Can you show ANY COURT RULING which agrees with you?
ANY court ruling which shows a law that "infringes" upon a person's capability to buy a gun is somehow infringing upon the 2nd amendment?
The answer is NO. You can't.
And we all know that...


<yawn>
I would challenge you to prove your claim, but we both know you can't...


It's a stupid question.
And it avoids my point.

Just because you trot out the boring "only criminals will own guns" storyline doesn't negate the fact that it is the NRA and NOT the second amendment which is a hinderance to gun control law passage.

You're avoiding my point and making none of your own.

You have just gone from "troll" to "delusional troll"...
Do you realize when you are not just failing to garner credibility, but you are actually actively destroying any credibility others might have thought you had?


You keep bringing up strawman challenges.

The RIGHT guarantees people in the militia ownership of guns.
That DOES NOT mean that others who aren't in the militia CAN'T own guns. It just means that it isn't a GUARANTEED RIGHT for their ownership.


Was this actually supposed to be a point?
Was there supposed to be a "Once upon a time" at the start of this story?

Well gun hater the 2nd amend does not state that. The 2nd amend states the right of the people to bear arms, not the militia to bear arms.
Well gun hater the people is who you wish to deny the right to bear arms.
WOW gun hater. I would rather be that then a member of a hate group taking rights away from people as you are. But keep hurling your insults. If that is what makes you feel good.
Well gun hater I guess I could use you asinine logic and say what CCL’s have been removed by gun haters challenging them in the courts.
Well gun hater do you mean like get the quote for that gun banning oral sex loving ex president?
Or do you mean to post which party won the last election because the leftist gun haters ran on a ticket of gun control and other things?
If you have not noticed gun hater the leftist are not preaching gun control right now. In fact the leftist are using the tactic of claiming to be gun owners, and claiming to be hunters and other things.
Hey gun hater it is a simple question and you cannot answer it.

WOW gun hater you would know what one is since you are one!

You keep claiming that, but the people who ACTUALLY INTERPRET THE LAW disagree with you.
Moreover, you can't show anybody actually sitting on the bench who agrees with you...
And to make matters worse, you can't even admit that...


Read the WHOLE SENTENCE.
Not just one phrase.
You keep focusing on ONE PHRASE and ignore the fact that it specifically discusses WHICH PEOPLE have the right guaranteed...


Nonsequitur.
My interpretation includes an explanation for BOTH "the people" and "militia".
Your interpretation only focuses on one phrase while ignoring the others.


What is a "CCL"?
Your attempted analogy is not even an analogy.


You mean the guy who left office because of TERM LIMITS.
It had nothing to do with "gun control"...

But this is what I thought.
Examples which have NOTHING to do with gun control.


ROFLMAO!
There are a variety of claims as to why the 2004 election was won by the Republicans.
This is the VERY FIRST time I've seen anybody try to claim that the democrats lost because of gun control....
There are a variety of polls asking why people voted one way or the other on the last election at this web-site.
You'll note that "gun control" didn't even rate as an issue....
http://www.pollingreport.com/2004.htm


ROFLMAO!
And this coming from the guy who claims that the second amendment has to exist otherwise gun haters would want to make it illegal to own guns???
Do you enjoy contradicting yourself?


Actually, I DID address your question.
Weren't you putting forth the stupid "only criminals will own guns" line of attempted argument?

It is you who didn't address my simple point, because you cannot answer it.
Your response has NOTHING to do with the fact that it is the NRA and not the second amendment which prevents gun legislation.

Hey gun hater at one time the courts ruled slavery as legal.
Hey gun hater at one time the courts ruled women did not have the same rights as males.
Hey gun hater I have read it and nowhere in it does it mention a requirement to be in a militia to bear arms.
Well gun hater it is not my job to educate you on gun control laws the gun haters want and do not want. Do some reading on the subject if you are going to talk about it.
Well gun hater more then 20 people that signed his AWB were not re-elected.
Well gun hater the leftist refer to it as god, guns, and gays. So gun hater since this is a post about gun control I left out the other two.
Oh great now the gun hater is going to use online polls. See gun hater the leftist went with this crap the last election. And it cost the leftist the election. Hey gun hater do you know what is wrong with online polls? The people that take online polls do not vote. Or the leftist would have won the last election.

This site came up with a very, very long conclusion which actually is in favor for DHard3006's argument...
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm