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Old 05-09-2006, 05:15 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I think a drunk person behind the wheel of a car can cause quite a bit of damage. Do you blame the alchohol or the person?

There is no excuse for driving drunk.
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There is no excuse for driving drunk.
So, why do you blame guns? Maybe there's no excuse for irresponsible gun use.
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Well here in Canada hand-guns are banned and it greatly reduces homicides and gun violence.
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Well here in Canada hand-guns are banned and it greatly reduces homicides and gun violence.
It would make all the sense in the world to do that in America too.
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So, why do you blame guns? Maybe there's no excuse for irresponsible gun use.

I blame guns because it makes this terribly violent action much too easy to perform and at a moments whim.

I think we at LEAST need to ban handguns.
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I blame guns because it makes this terribly violent action much too easy to perform and at a moments whim.

I think we at LEAST need to ban handguns.
Well, maybe we should at least ban hard liquor too. It's the same thing.

Being drunk makes a person more likely to do something violent.
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hev, when our freedoms and constitution was established, it was the cheif understanding that the costs of freedoms were well understood and people should take responsibility for their own actions and misuse of such freedoms under the law. For instance, people may get offended as a result to people exercising their right under the first amendment, but that doesn't mean we should ban freedoms of speech just because they're harmful to certain peoples. Consequently, sure handguns are destructive, and I despise them too, but right now I would rather not see our freedoms hindered any further, especially in a time when enough freedoms and rights are being ended.

And Dylan, I agree. The consequences of alcohol and drugs are sometimes just as or more harmful than handguns.
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hev, when our freedoms and constitution was established, it was the cheif understanding that the costs of freedoms were well understood and people should take responsibility for their own actions and misuse of such freedoms under the law. For instance, people may get offended as a result to people exercising their right under the first amendment, but that doesn't mean we should ban freedoms of speech just because they're harmful to certain peoples. Consequently, sure handguns are destructive, and I despise them too, but right now I would rather not see our freedoms hindered any further, especially in a time when enough freedoms and rights are being ended.
And Dylan, I agree. The consequences of alcohol and drugs are sometimes just as or more harmful than handguns.
What do you think of something akin to "driver's licenses" for guns?

Ensure that the owner is knowledgeable. Allow for the revokation (temporary or permanent) of the gun ownership if egregious disregard for their safe use is found...

It would be more restrictive, but at the same time I think some efforts should be taken to ensure proper usage, storage, and safety.
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Interesting idea, but isn't that concept basically already in place with the 5-day waiting period process?
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hev, when our freedoms and constitution was established, it was the cheif understanding that the costs of freedoms were well understood and people should take responsibility for their own actions and misuse of such freedoms under the law. For instance, people may get offended as a result to people exercising their right under the first amendment, but that doesn't mean we should ban freedoms of speech just because they're harmful to certain peoples. Consequently, sure handguns are destructive, and I despise them too, but right now I would rather not see our freedoms hindered any further, especially in a time when enough freedoms and rights are being ended.

And Dylan, I agree. The consequences of alcohol and drugs are sometimes just as or more harmful than handguns.

I still can't buy a bag of marijuana but I CAN go buy a weapon of personal destruction. Makes perfect sense to me!

Freedom to put a hole through a human? That is not a personal freedom to hold in high regard.

I understand the correlation between alcohol being capable of causing devastation but it certainly isn't designed for that purpose, whereas guns certainly are designed to kill.... and handguns designed to be easy to conceal.

Wouldn't a fair compromise be to allow larger weapons for personal saftey being that they are not easy to conceal?
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