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Old 05-01-2007, 03:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Abstinence-Only Delusion
Reliance on abstinence-only sex education as the primary tool to reduce teenage pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases — as favored by the Bush administration and conservatives in Congress — looks increasingly foolish and indefensible.

The abstinence-only campaign has always been driven more by ideology than by sound public health policy. The program’s tight rules, governing states that accept federal matching funds and community organizations that accept federal grants, forbid the promotion of contraceptive use and require teaching that sex outside marriage is likely to have harmful psychological and physical effects.

At least nine states, by one count, have decided to give up the federal matching funds rather than submit to dictates that undermine sensible sex education. Now there is growing evidence that the programs have no effect on children’s sexual behavior.

A Congressionally mandated report issued this month by the Mathematica Policy Research firm found that elementary and middle school students in four communities who received abstinence instruction — sometimes on a daily basis — were just as likely to have sex in the following years as students who did not get such instruction. Those who became sexually active — about half of each group — started at the same age (14.9 years on average) and had the same number of sexual partners. The chief caveat is that none of the four programs studied continued the abstinence instruction into high school, the most sexually active period for most teenagers, so it is not known whether more sustained abstinence education would show more effectiveness.

Supporters of abstinence-only education sometimes point to a sharp decline in teenage pregnancy rates in recent years as proof that the programs must be working. But a paper by researchers at Columbia University and the Guttmacher Institute, published in the January issue of The American Journal of Public Health, attributed 86 percent of the decline to greater and more effective use of contraceptives — and only 14 percent to teenagers’ deciding to wait longer to start having sex. At the very least, that suggests that the current policy of emphasizing abstinence and minimizing contraceptive use should be turned around.

As Congress prepares to debate further financing, it should either drop the abstinence-only program as a waste of money or broaden it to include safe-sex instruction. Abstinence deserves to be part of a comprehensive sex education effort, but not the only part.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Teaching just abstinence seems to be un-effective. Teach them safe sex and abstinence.
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Teaching just abstinence seems to be un-effective. Teach them safe sex and abstinence.
Agreed... kids should be taught that Abstinence is best, and taught all the risks... But taught how to protect themselves should they choose sex.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Agreed... kids should be taught that Abstinence is best, and taught all the risks... But taught how to protect themselves should they choose sex.
It is laughable that the ones who are promoting abstinence only no doubt failed their own standards back in the day . . .

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It is laughable that the ones who are promoting abstinence only no doubt failed their own standards back in the day . . .

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Ouch for them, you are mean OD
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Ouch for them, you are mean OD
Oh Good Gawd...I use to be one of them! So I know...

And you know what a ton of youth group leaders are telling young people? Not to date. To court.
And always make sure you keep a Bible between the two of you.

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Oh Good Gawd...I use to be one of them! So I know...

And you know what a ton of youth group leaders are telling young people? Not to date. To court.
And always make sure you keep a Bible between the two of you.

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LOL Will do OD
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It is laughable that the ones who are promoting abstinence only no doubt failed their own standards back in the day . . .

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So that just makes them even more qualified to teach by experiance.
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And you know what a ton of youth group leaders are telling young people? Not to date. To court.
And always make sure you keep a Bible between the two of you.

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Whats wrong with telling young folks to court? BTW if everyone lived by the standards of the new test, this world would be damn near perfect.
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Whats wrong with telling young folks to court? BTW if everyone lived by the standards of the new test, this world would be damn near perfect.
Preacher, what makes someone able to live by a standard at all? Does it not take a strong belief in that standard? And even then, don't we all, as humans fail to live absolutely by our own principles?

Better to provide health care and education that covers the incidence of varied standards, no standards and what to do when one violates his or her own standards.

This education must be realistic to render effectual results. And therefore it must be factual and not faith-based.

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