Oh come on! Hillary is a party animal. She'll rock your world.

Are those the same underwear Catus was wearing in that one pic in front of the mirror. That big ass ass looks familiar. Oh wait, wrong hair, my bad.

Hillary has a big surprise for you!

That is motherf'ing Hilary-us.

Thirty years ago there wer over 30 companies that made vaccines for the American population, today there are only 5. Over 25 companies have gone out of business. Oh damn that free market you say........NO!!!!!!

Damn the government, thanks to Hiliary, when she could not get her healthcare plan passed instead settled for legislation that got the government to pay for vaccines for children. As a result of the legislation, the companies were forced by the rule of law, to sell 60% of their vaccines to the government at a cost of 45% of free market prices. Lo and behold, now not only have prices increased, but we have seen shortages.

Government is already involved in health care and that is why we see such ridiculous prices. The government mandate that insurance companies and HMOs cover certain procedures and preventive practice under their umbrella of services without allowing the companies to increase their premiums. Again as a result we have seen companies go belly up.

Day in and day out we see people who receive free treatment through the government, via Medicaid, Medicare or others (in Alaska all natives) who contiually abuse the system. Rather than waiting a day to get an appointment at their Doctor's office instead they go to the Emergency Room because they have a cold or sore throat or some other minor complaint. Why shouldn't they???? They have no financial obligation to pay. As a result cost for those of us who do pay increase. I have insurance, a doctor visit cost $150 dollars, in which I will pay a $30 co-pay. An ER visit cost $3000 for just walking in the door to be seen, in which I will pay a $100 co-pay, only if it were a true emergency. If I showed up at the ER for a cold, my insurance company would leave me to pay the majority of the bill, covering only the cost if I would have gone to the doctor.

Turn on the TV late a night, hell sometimes even prime time, how many commercials do you see for this law firm or that filing some multiparty lawsuit on behalf of people who had an MRI and had dye injected or users of this drug or that because of its side effects. Again the cost of defending a company is passed on to those of us who pay.

Universal healthcare will lead to government mandate what prices can be charged, thats great, now suddenly doctors and healthcare providers are dictated what they can make. Sorry folks healthcare is not a right, nor can it ever be, simply because it is something you require others to provide for you.

dmk

Thank you dmk. I agree with you on the issue of certain abuses of the emergency rooms. It is not always the case but it does happen a lot.

Here in Iowa these outfits encourage and insist in some cases people go through the emergency rooms even when it is not an emergency. Just guessing but they probably have those justification budgets to deal with each year. Use, or loose it. To much creative accounting. Many social programs do not have enough oversight watching for abuses or dealing with them very well.

Maybe better programs to teach people how to be more economically responsible and a short example for understanding of why they need to be more responsible.

Lawsuits: If someone is damaged they have to have the ability to care for themselves or be cared for when they are physically damaged. So there has to be some degree of compensation for those injured.

If 25 companies were driven out maybe someone should be resurrecting them? Someone must be making average everyday reasonable cost drugs. Otherwise Walmart would not be able to sell these $4.00 prescriptions on over 300 medications.

$4 Prescriptions - Pharmacy - Wal-Mart

Lawsuits for these drugs that these companies make and passed out knowing the damages that could be caused harm cannot get free passes. If they do get away with it and their profits are increased it encourages them to be legal drug pushers.

I have to consider it somewhat like what happen to us and a our personal doctor. If you are giving stuff away to those in need some people don't care for that. In our doctors case he was definately setup. Long story I won't go into all the details but the man really cares for his patients or anyone in need. Regardless of ability to pay he treats people. Add that too $4.00 antibotics and you may stay healthy if our doctor is your doctor and you only have a few bucks to zero.

Our personal doctor is the only doctor of several who took the time to tell us about these $4.00 meds at Walmart.

THE DARK SIDE OF HILLARY CLINTON'S HEALTH CARE PLAN

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published on FoxNews.com on September 20, 2007.

The public face of Hillary Clinton's new health care plan is sunny, filled with choices for consumers and bright with promises for better health care for all. But a close examination of the proposal alongside other initiatives of Sen. Clinton in the past few years reveals a dark side she wants to hide from public view until after the election is over.

In her program, she speaks of how health care is the right of every "American" — but she has a rather expansive definition of "American." In 2005, Hillary co-sponsored legislation in the United States Senate to offer free health insurance, under the State Child Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to the children of illegal immigrants who have lived in the United States for five years. So, those who have dodged the immigration cops for five years successfully would be rewarded not only with legal status and a path to citizenship, but with immediate free health care for their children.

Indeed, when Democrats and liberals speak of the 50,000,000 uninsured Americans, more than one fifth of those are illegal immigrants. Thus, about one in five of the beneficiaries of her program for universal health insurance are illegal aliens. (Illegal immigrants are a disproportionately large segment of the uninsured population because legal immigrants and citizens who live in poverty are eligible for Medicaid, but illegal immigrants are not.)

Would Americans like to reward those whose only connection to our country is that they flouted our laws to come here with free health insurance for themselves and their children? Doubtless Hillary knows the answer is no, so she is determined to hide that aspect of her plan from the public.

Hillary speaks of the importance of stopping health insurance companies from raising premiums on those who are sick. But she does not mention the inevitable flip side of her proposal — to raise premiums on those who are well. On the one hand, she would cover all those with chronic conditions with low cost health insurance and, on the other, would stop insurance companies from "cherry picking" healthy and young people for their insurance plans. The net effect would be a major increase in health insurance premiums for the vast majority of Americans.

In effect, her plan would turn "insurance" into "subsidy." The concept of insurance is that one pays a relatively low premium to guard against catastrophic expenses that are outside of our ability to meet financially. But Hillary's program would really be nothing more than a cash transfer from the healthy to the sick, not an insurance program at all.

Hillary says that her program would provide "universal" coverage for all. In order to achieve universality, one must make the program compulsory. The bulk of the uninsured do not want to have to pay for insurance. They are healthy and don't want the added burden of health insurance. That is why about half of those who are eligible for free or low cost insurance under the State Child Health Insurance Program have not signed up. Their parents don't want to.

So Hillary's program, as she freely admits, would require health insurance as a pre-condition of employment. Not having health insurance would be a violation just as driving a car without automobile insurance is illegal. The resulting coercion would force millions to pay for coverage they do not want and feel they don't need. But to pay for her national program, Hillary needs everyone to be covered so she can use their revenues to subsidize the coverage of those who are ill.

But the main defect of Hillary's program is that it leaves out any attempt at cost control. With health care absorbing 16 percent of our economy, Bill Clinton's warnings of economic disaster if its share of our national income passed 12 percent back in 1993 sound almost quaint today. Cost control is a vital part of any plan for universal coverage. Indeed, without it, extending coverage just offers a blank check to patients and providers which would drive even higher the share of our economy that goes to health care.

It was Hillary herself who explained this concept to Dick in 1993. The reality has not changed. Hillary will be forced to control costs as the implicit and vital element of any health care reform. This control of costs belies her contention that she would leave the health care system untouched except to extend coverage to those who now lack it. Because she would need to limit utilization and lower costs, she would be forced to ration health care and to impose government mandated and controlled managed care on all Americans.

For the first time, the word "no" would come into our system. Do you need open heart surgery? Are you a poor risk because of smoking or diabetes or age? No longer would the bureaucrat at the other end of the phone say "we won't pay for it" or "you don't need it" or "we can't fit you in at our facility." The answer would simply be no — even if you pay for it yourself, you may not have one. It is this type of coercion that drives Canadians over the border to the U.S. in search of medical options denied them at home under their socialized medical structure. Now it would operate on both sides of the border.

Finally, Hillary seeks to finance the system by ending tax breaks for the wealthy, by which she means any household with $250,000 or more in income. Never mind that she has spent that money several times over. But why use income taxes to finance her system? Why not do what Democrats and Republicans are now pushing in Congress — to finance it by raising cigarette taxes? That way we get a double impact: higher tobacco prices cut smoking, particularly among teenagers, and reduce health costs and the revenues pay for her expansion of the system. The current Congress is passing legislation to raise cigarette taxes 61 cents per pack to pay for a $35 billion expansion of the State Child Health Insurance Program. Why not raise them $2 per pack to raise the $110 billion Hillary says her health care proposal will need?

In selling her program, Hillary seems to imply that she was under the hypnotic control of her advisers (presumably Ira Magaziner) in 1993 when she designed her previous health care reform. Now she says she is in charge. "I'm the decision maker now," she told The New York Times. "I have a plan that is 100 percent my plan." But what was the 1993 initiative but her plan, concocted in secret and foisted in toto on a Congress which wouldn't pass it?

Now she says she would not "have approached [health care reform] in the same way" as she did in 1993. Now she will be informed by "a greater dose of humility and empathy and understanding of what it takes to get things done in our political system."

That and a determination to conceal the true implications of her proposal until after she is elected.

A thought for anyone who may have some insight to this issue.
In Idaho we had options for work comp insurance. We could buy insurance from our private insurance company or from the state operated workmans comp program.

On the years our industry had few or no claims as an employer paying into the state insurance fund we would recieve a refund. In years that claims were higher the rates may go higher or refunds were less.

It would seem that comparable programs like this for medical care could be operated on this type of scale to help the uninsured that cannot afford insurance or for employers with small enterprises that would like to create health plans for their employees.

The options were available for private or state insurance. So a choice was given.

Perhaps a research is in order to see if we can pinpoint the date at which healthcare became so extortionate. For example, I found a statement from the early 40s received for the delivery of a child. The total bill was 25 dollars, for both the hospital AND the doctor. Without digging it out, as I remember the hospital's bill was 15; the doctor's fee was 10. So, this means our search should start at a later date...say, 1960? '70?? Let's look back to see if we can find when and better, "why" the cost has risen so astronomically. You may have to speak with parents and/or grandparents. Better hurry! They may not be here too much longer! Pick their brains now while you can. You won't always have the privilege.

Hillary's plan is pure BS and socialism. It will cost the government trillions of dollars. Now...where do you think that kind of money comes from? The coffers of the United States treasury? They're broke. The printing press of the World Bankers?? and who will pay for their fiat money with blood, sweat and tears? And who might that be? Trust me, it ain't some imaginary "Uncle Sam". The money will come from YOU, YOU, and YOU! The American taxpayer! You can't afford healthcare? Get Hillary's plan in and you won't be getting ahead. But the rich will still be able to afford the best healthcare there is offered.

Don't be deceived by her. Nothing in this life is free. With Hillary's Healthcare, we will be slaves and they will decide who will be eligible for healthcare. Furthermore, her plan includes euthanasia that the patient receiving it has no input. In other words, if her "system" finds that treating you is too costly, and you don't have many years left, or aren't an asset to society (moneywise), you may find yourself being put down like an rabid dog.

Hillary's healthcare should be called what it is: "Healthcare from Hell!"

We've been skipping down the primrose path too long without paying attention to what is going on around us. It's about time we woke up to reality and responsibility.