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Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries.

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:59 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Thanks, Indago, for that piece by Dick Morris!! I had read it but couldn't remember WHO wrote it and was too lazy to do a search. I had only read page one or two when I posted my comments.

I hope people will wise up before the election and see Hillary for who she really is and not who she wants us to believe she is.
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THE DARK SIDE OF HILLARY CLINTON'S HEALTH CARE PLAN

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published on FoxNews.com on September 20, 2007.
Quoting Dick Morris on Hillary is like quoting Heidi Fleiss on abstinence as a method of birth control.
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Don't be deceived by her. Nothing in this life is free.
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Make that "free at the point of access". Like education or the fire service.



With Hillary's Healthcare, we will be slaves and they will decide who will be eligible for healthcare.
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By "they" do you mean some junior clerk at the insurance company? Because that's who decides today.





Furthermore, her plan includes euthanasia that the patient receiving it has no input. In other words, if her "system" finds that treating you is too costly, and you don't have many years left, or aren't an asset to society (moneywise), you may find yourself being put down like an rabid dog.

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LOL Very funny!

I don't suppose you'd care to substantiate that ludicrous claim?





Hillary's healthcare should be called what it is: "Healthcare from Hell!"

We've been skipping down the primrose path too long without paying attention to what is going on around us. It's about time we woke up to reality and responsibility.
Reality is

-47m Americans are uninsured
-15% of US GDP is spent on healthcare
-Medical expenses are the biggest cause of bankruptcy in the US
-Every other industrialised nation, and a few not-so-industrialised, manages to afford healthcare for everyone
-The hidden costs of the current system are astronomical
-It's getting worse
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More info on Hillary found on No Looking Backwards" blog, "God help the United States of America if this rancid hag is ever elected president. " This one is particulary entertaining.
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More info on Hillary found on No Looking Backwards blog "God help the United States of America if this rancid hag is ever elected president." This one is particulary entertaining.
The title of that site sounds like my feelings on Hillary getting elected.

The cartoon at the bottom of that page was wrong, just wrong.
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Furthermore, her plan includes euthanasia that the patient receiving it has no input. In other words, if her "system" finds that treating you is too costly, and you don't have many years left, or aren't an asset to society (moneywise), you may find yourself being put down like an rabid dog.

I had to take the time to read the plan before responding to this ridiculous claim. It is only 16 pages long so it didn't take long.

Just as I suspected, your above statement is a bald-faced lie. No mention of euthanasia whatsoever.

As to others deciding if you get health care or not, except for the wealthy that is already the case.

What will be different under Clinton's system? Government bureaucrats get to decide instead of insurance industry toadies? Those who are already happy with their insurance companies will not be forced to change so why should they care?

I, for one, think that government bureaucrats might just be an improvement.


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The title of that site sounds like my feelings on Hillary getting elected.

The cartoon at the bottom of that page was wrong, just wrong.
As bad as Hillary as, lord protect us from Obama.
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I had to take the time to read the plan before responding to this ridiculous claim. It is only 16 pages long so it didn't take long.

Just as I suspected, your above statement is a bald-faced lie. No mention of euthanasia whatsoever.
If Hillary is the nominee, which looks likely, this is going to be the dirtiest election campaign in history.

They are already making up lies about euthansia. FOX tries to bash her every day.

The Petraus ad will look tame by comparison.
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He used the word euthanasia. But his point was that the plan might dump those who the plan doesn't deem "worth" treating.
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Reality is

-47m Americans are uninsured
-15% of US GDP is spent on healthcare
-Medical expenses are the biggest cause of bankruptcy in the US
-Every other industrialised nation, and a few not-so-industrialised, manages to afford healthcare for everyone
-The hidden costs of the current system are astronomical
-It's getting worse
Reality is Hillary's healthcare will NOT help matters. It is UNAmerican to force people to pay for something they may not need or be able to afford. Quit looking for socialist answers. And read something that plays the Devil's Advocate with Hillary's ideas. How about doing a search on her. Don't just read the nicey-nicey articles about her. Find out who she really is. She is not who she appears to be, i.e., all benevolent and kind.

As I said in so many words, the answers can be found in the past. Go back and eliminate whatever was placed in that started the out-of-control spiral of healthcare. One clue, not so far back, is illegal aliens using OUR healthcare facilities as an everyday trip to the hospital's emergency room (as opposed to making an appointment at the doctor's office where they would have to pay) and/or having babies and not paying the bill. Nothing in this life is free. SOMEONE pays, and currently, it's the middle class American citizens.
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