| Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries. |
01-30-2008, 06:15 PM
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Points: 20,634, Level: 90 | Level up: 91%, 216 Points needed | | The problem is that "life" is starting to be more expensive than a basic education/job can support. When a gallon of gas costs half an hours wage, you know you have a problem. But I don't see how the government can save someone from themselves.
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01-30-2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by no rights I know the feeling. I've stayed in homeless shelters. I wasn't just handed SS over night. | That is a valid complaint NR. The time that it takes before someone is given what is set aside as provision for the disabled. Some disabilities are kinda iffy though, we must admit.
But there are those who have truly debilitating and heart-rending disabilities and they are on a long, long waiting list for their case to even be reviewed and then they are often turned away, only to have to appeal it. And wait longer still...
Guess that is job security for those who work in those agencies!
Then there are some who get disability based on health issues that come from behaviors. Like the morbidly obese that get SSI. I have a particular difficulty with some of them. I believe that it ought to be mandated that they get medical guidance to lose the weight that is making for so many weight-related health issues that make for being disabled. They can be weaned off the support as they recover from their health problems.
There was a local woman here who weighed like 500 some lbs. She was on all kinds of drugs. And then cos they were for pain and sleeping pills and such, she was selling the pills to vulnerable kids in the apartment complex I use to live in.
I believe she ought not still be on SSI...abusing the system like that.
And in many cases, The Dept. of Vocational Rehab can retrain someone who can no longer work in the career they had, prior to their disability.
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01-30-2008, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fxashun The problem is that "life" is starting to be more expensive than a basic education/job can support. When a gallon of gas costs half an hours wage, you know you have a problem. But I don't see how the government can save someone from themselves. | The government could save more Americans but they're to busy "liberating" Iraqi's. |
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01-30-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by OhDear That is a valid complaint NR. The time that it takes before someone is given what is set aside as provision for the disabled. Some disabilities are kinda iffy though, we must admit. But there are those who have truly debilitating and heart-rending disabilities and they are on a long, long waiting list for their case to even be reviewed and then they are often turned away, only to have to appeal it. And wait longer still... Guess that is job security for those who work in those agencies! Then there are some who get disability based on health issues that come from behaviors. Like the morbidly obese that get SSI. I have a particular difficulty with some of them. I believe that it ought to be mandated that they get medical guidance to lose the weight that is making for so many weight-related health issues that make for being disabled. They can be weaned off the support as they recover from their health problems. There was a local woman here who weighed like 500 some lbs. She was on all kinds of drugs. And then cos they were for pain and sleeping pills and such, she was selling the pills to vulnerable kids in the apartment complex I use to live in. I believe she ought not still be on SSI...abusing the system like that. And in many cases, The Dept. of Vocational Rehab can retrain someone who can no longer work in the career they had, prior to their disability. OhDear | There's also a nice little loop hole our government takes advantage of. You have to have a home address to apply for SS when many disabled Americans are homeless and the government knows this. At the same time they send billiions of dollars over seas for people living in boxes. |
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01-30-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by no rights No,you took it the wrong way. I get crumbs compared to the asshole politicians and our shadow government that live off the tax payers.
Even the asshole employees that work here at the public housing are making a good living and all drive new SUV trucks and own homes. | That sounds like jealousy talking.
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01-30-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by no rights The government could save more Americans but they're to busy "liberating" Iraqi's. | Agreed, but then again, there are other programs that could use help as well. Our infrastructure for example.
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01-30-2008, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OhDear That sounds like jealousy talking. OhDear | No it's fed up talking. |
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01-30-2008, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fxashun Agreed, but then again, there are other programs that could use help as well. Our infrastructure for example. | Well yeah,there are all kinds of things that need to be done in the U.S. |
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01-30-2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by no rights No it's fed up talking. | Why are the people who work in the Social Service Agencies that are helping out in the housing authority being singled out for driving SUV's?
How about all those Detroit Lions getting six figure incomes on the NFL Channel that NR cannot get for free now?
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01-30-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OhDear Why are the people who work in the Social Service Agencies that are helping out in the housing authority being singled out for driving SUV's? How about all those Detroit Lions getting six figure incomes on the NFL Channel that NR cannot get for free now? OhDear | More like 7 figures. |
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