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Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries.

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Old 04-10-2008, 03:16 PM   #91 (permalink)
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It's only free to you, because the taxpayer is picking up your insurance bill, so you don't have to worry about it.

A privilege you seek to deny to your fellow Americans (and resident aliens!).
They should join the military or something. I'm not saying the system ain't broke, but universal ain't my answer.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #92 (permalink)
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They should join the military or something. I'm not saying the system ain't broke, but universal ain't my answer.

So everyone should join the military just to get health insurance??!

What kind of cockeyed solution is that??

It would be far cheaper just to implement single-payer universal health care, then we won't have to buy all those uniforms and boots.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:19 PM   #93 (permalink)
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So does the guy masturbating while watching the 10 year old next door playing in the pool, polygamists, incestuos couples, and that guy screwing his cat. They all pay taxes too.
Yes, and with the possible exception of the guy with the kid, all tax paying Americans deserve to take advantage of w hat they work hard for and pay into. Or do you prefer some strange kind of socialism where a small minority pay in and never reap t heir own benefits?
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:22 PM   #94 (permalink)
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So everyone should join the military just to get health insurance??!

What kind of cockeyed solution is that??

It would be far cheaper just to implement single-payer universal health care, then we won't have to buy all those uniforms and boots.
LOL. Good one.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:23 PM   #95 (permalink)
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Yes, and with the possible exception of the guy with the kid, all tax paying Americans deserve to take advantage of w hat they work hard for and pay into. Or do you prefer some strange kind of socialism where a small minority pay in and never reap t heir own benefits?
That's effectively what happens today with the current shambolic health care system.

Everybody pays to subsidise health insurance companies, directly or indirectly, but not everyone gets coverage.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:25 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Yes, and with the possible exception of the guy with the kid, all tax paying Americans deserve to take advantage of w hat they work hard for and pay into. Or do you prefer some strange kind of socialism where a small minority pay in and never reap t heir own benefits?
I can't understand where you get that impression. Not gonna derail this discussion with homosexual talk.
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:25 PM   #97 (permalink)
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So everyone should join the military just to get health insurance??!

What kind of cockeyed solution is that??

It would be far cheaper just to implement single-payer universal health care, then we won't have to buy all those uniforms and boots.
Now, I'm stymied.

FX gets such great care as someone who was in the Marines, what? 15 years ago? And wasn't even hurt in battle, yet our guys that are wounded in battle get this:

"Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan's room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses."

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility - washingtonpost.com

What's up with that?
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Old 04-10-2008, 03:27 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Now, I'm stymied.

FX gets such great care as someone who was in the Marines, what? 15 years ago? And wasn't even hurt in battle, yet our guys that are wounded in battle get this:

"Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan's room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses."

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility - washingtonpost.com

What's up with that?

Yeah that sounds more like a NHS hospital in the east end of London


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Old 04-10-2008, 03:27 PM   #99 (permalink)
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I would like to know the same thing, knot-e. Talk about supporting the troops, huh?
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Now, I'm stymied.

FX gets such great care as someone who was in the Marines, what? 15 years ago? And wasn't even hurt in battle, yet our guys that are wounded in battle get this:

"Behind the door of Army Spec. Jeremy Duncan's room, part of the wall is torn and hangs in the air, weighted down with black mold. When the wounded combat engineer stands in his shower and looks up, he can see the bathtub on the floor above through a rotted hole. The entire building, constructed between the world wars, often smells like greasy carry-out. Signs of neglect are everywhere: mouse droppings, belly-up cockroaches, stained carpets, cheap mattresses."

Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility - washingtonpost.com

What's up with that?
I get care at regular hospitals, not the VA, or military facilities. Although the Army hospital in Hawaii was excellent. 15 years ago.
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