Defending the Truth

I can't help it. I'm for equal rights. A civil rights nut.

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And I'm actually all for equal rights, just don't call the union a "marriage". I'm a "marriage" nut.

And what makes you so marriage nutty, fx?

Mine. I take it seriously and feel "one man one woman" is an important component. It should not be bastardized with "other".

Not one single other marriage has any effect on yours. Why are you so insecure?

Why does it have to be insecure? I simply feel that same gender relationships are NOT a marriage. That's not insecure, that's just looking at a situation and saying "hey that's f*cked up, how dare you call that dysfunctional crap the same term as a the heterosexual union". Just as we call a female dog a bitch, many women get a bit upset when we call them by the same name.
But Gary is right, lets try to stay on topic.

its still a cold day in hell, but garysher is finally talking sense for a whole thread!

fxashun, i had a look at your ways to fix the health system you posted earlier.

has it occured to you that the system you propose is very similar to the kind of universal health insurance that others have been proposing and you have been opposing?

your system is one that collects tax from EVERYBODY through a 5% health sales tax and destributes the proceeds as medical services to anyone who need them. some will use more health care than others, but there will be services available for everybody. and if you want to top up your health care with additional monies thats fine.

this is a description of universal health provision. the arguments you have voiced apply to your own health system. your proposal demands that everyone pay for everyone elses health insurance every time they purchase. why? is it fair for you to have to pay 5% extra so strangers get health cover? apparently you think it is. is it the governments responsibility to collect this tax so everyone has access to free at point of service health care? apparently you think it is.

exactly what are you opposed to? your suggestion is a method of delivering universal health care. what else do you think universal health care is?

How long have you been married, fx? How many times have you been married? Is our wife your age? Did you go against the norm and marry and then have children, or did you have children and then marry? What gives you the authority to place a definition on something as exclusive to those who are like you?

But you see the reason I support "my" plan is that EVERYBODY pays. It's based on a sales tax, not an income tax. Many people don't pay income tax at all, and some people get more back in income tax refund than they paid in the first place with EIC. Under my plan, if you buy anything other than the basic necessities of life, you are helping the system. I think that is as fair as can be, and I support that. If you aren't buying anything, more than likely you are POOR, very POOR, and you should get assistance.

That's why I posted that, I'm not against some form of national assistance, just don't base it on income tax, cause that's just taking money from the upper and middle class to pay for the poor...period. Which is strictly representation with no taxation for too many people.