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Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries.

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Old 05-08-2008, 11:34 AM   #131 (permalink)
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FX also fails to realize that the largest group of uninsured are working people.

Yes, FX, people who DO pay taxes. They actually make too much to qualify for Medicaid, but can't afford the exhorbitant premiums most insurance companies charge. On my other forum, a woman who is in a group plan for small businesses just got her notification of increase in premiums to almost $1000 a month.

She pays taxes, as does her husband.

Oh, and BTW, waaa waaa to you about EIC. Jeepers, someone who makes less the $25,000 a year gets a little extra back at tax time, boo hoo to you.

When I was single with 3 kids, just barely making it, that little extra I got at tax time took care of dental visits for the kids.
$1,000 a month??? That's way too much for anyone to pay. How complicated can health insurance be, especially when one pays $134 a month, but has a very high deductible?

With the high gas prices and food, it is preventing me to having going to the doctor, even though I don't pay a penny for my health insurance, but the medical costs are high anyway.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:16 PM   #132 (permalink)
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The rich should be paying more in taxes as a percentage of their income than the people who are earning much less. The proportion that actually occurs is totally lop-sided. The rich pay the least and the working poor pay more. And corporations are receiving subsidies from the government that they don't need. Taxes are necessary, and I feel great about paying my taxes and living in America, but the codes are crazy and the loopholes for the rich and corporations are too many.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:20 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:30 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Taxes are necessary, and I feel great about paying my taxes and living in America...


Me too. But I bet the cynics will say we are lying.

I have never resented paying taxes even though I know that some of them are going for things that I do not approve of. The rest -- and hopefully the lion's share -- are going for services that I and/or my fellow citizens rely on.

It seems like the whiners are usually people who have much more than enough to live on. My brother was once ranting about how much he and his real estate agent wife had paid in federal taxes (only) the year before. It was more than twice my annual income! I failed to find any sympathy in my heart.


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Old 05-08-2008, 10:22 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Why be sympathetic if their lives are good and they are living well, right? It is a privilege to be living in America, taxes and all. Even though Bush has dirtied us up a bit more than we used to be.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:47 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:51 AM   #137 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:54 AM   #138 (permalink)
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FX also fails to realize that the largest group of uninsured are working people.

Yes, FX, people who DO pay taxes. They actually make too much to qualify for Medicaid, but can't afford the exhorbitant premiums most insurance companies charge. On my other forum, a woman who is in a group plan for small businesses just got her notification of increase in premiums to almost $1000 a month.

She pays taxes, as does her husband.

Oh, and BTW, waaa waaa to you about EIC. Jeepers, someone who makes less the $25,000 a year gets a little extra back at tax time, boo hoo to you.

When I was single with 3 kids, just barely making it, that little extra I got at tax time took care of dental visits for the kids.
Not my problem. Get a better job. I have my own family to be concerned about. Your issues that made you single with 3 kids is none of my concern. I'm doing my best to make sure my wife and kids have what it takes to make it. And that includes watching everything I eat and drink so that I can be around to see my son grow up. Taking taxes out of my check to help individual people that I don't know that aren't contributing to the system but getting help is not my idea of fair. And someone who makes $25k a year and getting more money back than they paid in is bullshit. It's crap like that that makes me not support universal health care.
Unless they attach it to a non-deductible non-graduated tax that everybody pays, I'm not for it.
I don't believe in punishing people for being successful. Why would you tax someone heavier because "they can afford it". That's bullshit. They work just as hard as anyone else, why should they be punished more for being wealthy?
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:55 AM   #139 (permalink)
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:56 AM   #140 (permalink)
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Not my problem. Get a better job. I have my own family to be concerned about.
That is exactly the attitude that is ruining this country.

And you're right. Paris Hilton worked hard for her millions.

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