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Old 04-09-2008, 10:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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ok,

1. Healthcare isn't free. Even if the government takes over the Healthcare industry, it's NOT free.

2. Government has a bad habit of mismanaging anything it touches. Prices go up, quality goes down. Example? DMV

3. The issue isn't about caring. I care about a lot of things, I don't think the government should "force" my neighbor to pitch in for it. If I believe in it enough I'll pay for it, try to raise money for it and ask people to donate.
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ok,

1. Healthcare isn't free. Even if the government takes over the Healthcare industry, it's NOT free.

Not free, but free at the point of access.

Healthcare in America certainly isn't free. Everytime you open your wallet or swipe your credit card a portion of your bill goes to pay somebody else's health insurance.






2. Government has a bad habit of mismanaging anything it touches. Prices go up, quality goes down. Example? DMV

How about Example: United States military, the second largest enterprise on the planet and run by the government! Would you say they were mismanaged?

How about Example: NASA, another govt run organisation that put men on the moon 40 years ago?

The fact is that govt run organisations can be successful when they are well funded, well- run and when they pay well and hire motivated people.



3. The issue isn't about caring. I care about a lot of things, I don't think the government should "force" my neighbor to pitch in for it. If I believe in it enough I'll pay for it, try to raise money for it and ask people to donate.
You already are pitching in and you are forced to do so - but you just don't realise it.

Other people's healthcare is already included in the price when you make a car payment, mortgage payment, buy groceries, gas, airline tickets, and almost everything else

Open your eyes!
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Not really. People die all the time. It's a fact of life.
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Not really. People die all the time. It's a fact of life.
I would not call it people dying all the time. We can only die once, unless we are in a cryogenic state.
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Dragon, I do have health insurance. Even with the high cost of health care, coupled with the high gas prices, I sort of have to make fewer trips to see the doctor at this point.

My insurance is PPO, but I really don't favor HMOs, as in my opinion it can be bureaucratic red tape kind of insurance. My PPO is a good one, BTW.

Willie you'll need to explain what PPO and HMO are all about for our Aussie friend.

The rest of the world doesn't use American healthcare abbreviations!
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Not really. People die all the time. It's a fact of life.

And if you had your way people would be dying a lot sooner!

You embody the classic "I'm alright Jack" syndrome!
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Willie you'll need to explain what PPO and HMO are all about for our Aussie friend.

The rest of the world doesn't use American healthcare abbreviations!
Nah, he can always look it up.
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And if you had your way people would be dying a lot sooner!

You embody the classic "I'm alright Jack" syndrome!
Not really. Care for the poor and children, but everyone else should be able to support their own healthcare like they provide their own food and shelter.

The government ain't giving out filet mignon, nor should you just get free healthcare.
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Not really. Care for the poor and children, but everyone else should be able to support their own healthcare like they provide their own food and shelter.

The government ain't giving out filet mignon, nor should you just get free healthcare.
Who pays for your health care??
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Nah, he can always look it up.

Have you researched the Australian health care system Willie?

You should, you may learn something.
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