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Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries.

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Old 04-09-2008, 01:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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You don't have to worry about Australia's health care system, but you may benefit from educating yourself about it.

You may begin to realise how much Americans are being ripped off compared to peer nations.
What is the taxation rate in Australia?
Tax in Australia - Aussiemove.com
40%? We do better than that in my household.
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Old 04-09-2008, 01:49 PM   #32 (permalink)
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What is the taxation rate in Australia?
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40%? We do better than that in my household.
Are you including all the hidden taxes you pay to subsidise other people's health insurance?

As a self-employed business owner I pay more than 40% including SS.

And I have to buy health insurance on top of that!

Just comparing tax rates is misleading.
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Old 04-09-2008, 01:52 PM   #33 (permalink)
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$415 a year for a family for health care insurance? Are you kidding?

That's nothing. I pay almost that as my co-pay through my work per month ($88 per week).

Please.

When I worked in Britain my National Insurance contribution was about that or less.

And it covered the entire family for anything. No exclusions or denials or arguments with insurance clerks.

No hanging on the phone for hours or wading through labrynthine phone systems.
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Old 04-09-2008, 01:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Are you including all the hidden taxes you pay to subsidise other people's health insurance?

As a self-employed business owner I pay more than 40% including SS.

And I have to buy health insurance on top of that!

Just comparing tax rates is misleading.
I also wonder, too, what else do they have that's free?

I'm not too sure about Australia, but another poster said that in Denmark, with a 40% tax burden, not only is healthcare free, but higher education is also.
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When I worked in Britain my National Insurance contribution was about that or less.

And it covered the entire family for anything. No exclusions or denials or arguments with insurance clerks.

No hanging on the phone for hours or wading through labrynthine phone systems.
That $88 dollars a week doesn't include deductibles and co-pays, either. Our insurance company was so nice (sarcasm). They haven't raised our policy rates, but our deductibles have gone from $500 per family per year (2004) to $2000 per family per year (200.
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That $88 dollars a week doesn't include deductibles and co-pays, either. Our insurance company was so nice (sarcasm). They haven't raised our policy rates, but our deductibles have gone from $500 per family per year (2004) to $2000 per family per year (200.

Exactly.

Wait till you try and claim something. Try finding a doctor who'll see you for $50 a visit.

The bottom line is you shouldn't get sick if you can't afford to, if you do that's your fault.
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Old 04-09-2008, 02:01 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Are you including all the hidden taxes you pay to subsidise other people's health insurance?

As a self-employed business owner I pay more than 40% including SS.

And I have to buy health insurance on top of that!

Just comparing tax rates is misleading.
Do you have employees? I bet you pay through the nose for your contribution to their health insurance.
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Old 04-09-2008, 03:51 PM   #38 (permalink)
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okay and now I wish to know what the heck is Fifth disease? my granddaughter just got diagnosed but I never heard of this. I think the doctor is nuts lol

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Old 04-09-2008, 04:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
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okay and now I wish to know what the heck is Fifth disease? my granddaughter just got diagnosed but I never heard of this. I think the doctor is nuts lol
Fifth Disease

Now you know why they went to medical school and they became doctors. Don't doubt your grandchild's doctor.


Especially common in kids between the ages of 5 and 15, fifth disease typically produces a distinctive red rash on the face that makes the child appear to have a "slapped cheek." The rash then spreads to the trunk, arms, and legs. Fifth disease is actually just a viral illness that most kids recover from quickly and without complications.
Fifth disease (also called erythema infectiosum) is caused by parvovirus B19. A human virus, parvovirus B19 is not the same parvovirus that veterinarians may be concerned about in pets, especially dogs, and it cannot be passed from humans to animals or vice versa.
Studies show that although 40% to 60% of adults worldwide have laboratory evidence of a past parvovirus B19 infection, most of these adults can't remember having had symptoms of fifth disease. This leads medical experts to believe that most people with a B19 infection have either very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all.
Fifth disease occurs everywhere in the world. Outbreaks of parvovirus tend to happen in the late winter and early spring, but there may also be sporadic cases of the disease any time throughout the year.

Signs and Symptoms

Fifth disease begins with a low-grade fever, headache, and mild cold-like symptoms (a stuffy or runny nose). These symptoms pass, and the illness seems to be gone until a rash appears a few days later. The bright red rash typically begins on the face. Several days later, the rash spreads and red blotches (usually lighter in color) extend down to the trunk, arms, and legs. The rash usually spares the palms of the hands and soles of the feet. As the centers of the blotches begin to clear, the rash takes on a lacy net-like appearance. Kids younger than 10 years old are most likely to get the rash.
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Old 04-09-2008, 04:08 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I have never heard of this even with my children. hmmmm.
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