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Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries.

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Old 01-04-2007, 02:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know all about inflating numbers and the deceit of the left. The government is not a nanny. If you can't take care of yourself and your kids, then move to a socialist country that will take care of you. The rest of us much prefer to live in freedom without the government talling us which doctor to go to and when we can get in. No thanks.
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I am astounded that there are people on this board arguing that the U.S. does not have a health insurance problem.
Proof, indeed, that some people will argue over the color of grass - and will debate the source when proven it's green when shown a picture of grass.




Your argument is with the ultra-liberals. Go blow some stink on them. Leave us non-criminal people alone.
Old 01-04-2007, 05:15 PM   #43 (permalink)
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This quote - from page 23 of the report you linked - is all you need to see. It's a confession and an admission... Perhaps you mis-read the report!

"Research shows health insurance coverage is underreported in the CPS ASEC for a variety of reasons."


In other words, they're admitting that there are MORE PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH COVERAGE THAN THE REPORT SHOWS.


What does that say to you?




Now here's another FACT you cannot deny:
Medical Assistance is available to ALL LOW INCOME FAMILIES. State programs like MinnesotaCare are available to ALL MIDDLE-INCOME FAMILIES. A family of 4 that makes over $55,000 per year CAN AFFORD TO BUY THEIR OWN PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE.

So... Every family, with an income of less than $55,000 per year, can get state-funded medical coverage
. Only families with an income of over $55,000 per year are NOT eligible for government-assisted healthcare coverage.

HOW IN HECK DO YOU THINK THIS MAKES 40 MILLION AMERICANS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE? If they don't have health-care coverage, it's because they're CHOOSING NOT TO. The poor in America get government healthcare. Those who are NOT poor can afford to buy it.

WHY DON'T THESE WEALTHY PEOPLE HAVE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE?


Here's another way of looking at it:
1. Every family of four, with an income of less than $55,000 per year is eligible for some sort of government-assisted medical coverage. THAT INCLUDES ALL OF AMERICA'S "POOR".

2. Every family that has more than a $55,000 per year income CAN AFFORD TO PURCHASE THEIR OWN HEALTH INSURANCE. Why aren't they? A family that makes $55,000 per year is making over $4,500 per month. WHY AREN'T THEY PURCHASING HEALTH INSURANCE FOR $500 PER MONTH? It's because they're choosing NOT to.

3. Hospitals and doctors, across the nation, write off hundreds of millions of dollars per year in health-care costs. In other words, people have gotten treatment, but NEVER PAY FOR IT.


Perhaps what some of these "supposed" 40 million people ought to do is SELL THEIR BOAT AND GET HEALTH INSURANCE! Do you suppose that's a possibility? Perhaps they should ask themselves what they need worse: A 6,000 square foot house, or health insurance. Perhaps people who are buying new pickups should be buying health insurance instead!

Perhaps people should take a little personal responsibility!
You did note that I underlined the part of the report that said they were likely overreporting the number of uninsured, didn't you? That I was saying they were stating that the number was likely too high. We don't know how much too high, though, do we? Perhaps you know of a better source than the Census Bureau?

I am not familiar with the state program in Minnesota. I have not investigated the other state programs, but since each state decides eligibility, they are likely different. Do you know of a comparison website with this info? You see, I don't know that every family making 55K qualifies for state coverage unless I actually see it. You didn't provide a source.

I agree that people need to take responsibility for themselves (and their children).
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In other words, you're admitting - by this information as well - that that famous "40 million Americans without health-care" is BS.

It's made up numbers, exaggerated for political reasons and financial gain!
Ah, so Jefferson thinks estimates are BS. I'll have to remember that.
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Ah, so Jefferson thinks estimates are BS. I'll have to remember that.
I hope you do.
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