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| Health Care Debate and defend your thoughts on the current health care system. Compare and contrast the current health care system of the US to other countries. |
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| The Man You Love to Hate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ketchikan, AK Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,915 Country: ![]()
| Currently, health insurances premiums paid by companies are tax exemptions for the companies, this plan would eliminate this tax break for business.....something all our liberal friends should love, eliminating some of that corporate welfare. Second, the standard deduction would be $7500 for individuals. Basically that means that the premiums you pay up to $7500 are exempted. This will actually make insurance more affordable fro everybody. Because companies will be losing the exemption, more and more will not provided coverage, this is a trend we are already seeing due to the high costs. As a result, insurance companies will be forced to make their products more accessible to more people. The current system that has business and unions offering insurance give these companies no incentives to attract the individual consumer. Buzzchick you said that your income would increase by $14,400 a year, yes it would, however, you would be able to deduct the full amount from you tax liability due to the tax exemption, in other words you would see no increase in your taxable income. Furthermore, because this break will make the buting of individual policies more attractive, companies will compete for you business by trying to provide you with more attractive packages at lower costs than competitors, which means the possibility of reducing your cost...In other words more you would have more disposable income. The most effective way to lower costs is to create a demand for a product. A demand stimulates a supply. A free market stimulates competition which results in lower costs. People want fix for health care, well this is a great one, one that would not be just a bandaid but rather a long-term solution. However, this will be dead on arrival in congress. The democrats will not support this because it takes money from their largest contributors....the UNIONS. dmk Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles -Russell Kirk- | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Partisan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,726 Country: ![]()
| whew - can you imagine what it would cost of cable if nobody wanted it? everybody in america has it, so there's definitely a demand, and it STILL costs 160 bucks a month! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| hey highway - gee - people from all over the internet end up here! good to see you. This is easily a 98% troll-free site! There's Jefferson and the boringsher trolls - but that's really about it. Welcome to the forum! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Tristan trolling again we see: "a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Why do we pay for cable and still suffer endless advertising? Why do we pay to get advertised to? Either cable TV should be ad-free or the advertisers whould pay our cable bills SO much for the Land of the Free | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| you can get cable without commercials. that would be the home channel (in my case, it's Comcast) you pay for the access to the cable system if you want to watch tv programs, we pay for those by advertising just as you can walk in a mall for free and look at all the posters of the cinemas' attractions - but if you want to watch a movie, you have to buy a ticket. Of course, you can pay for tivo and never watch a commerical again *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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In 2005 average household income in the US was $46,326, or $3,860 a month. (http://www.census.gov/prod/2006pubs/p60-231.pdf) Where will these people find an additional $650 a month? The only real solution to the nightmare of US healthcare is a universal solution to which everyone contributes That solution has many flaws to, but its the only way to provide healthcare to everyone and not just the affluent. The affluent are people who can afford $160 a month for cable TV | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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