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Old 09-20-2007, 04:06 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Perhaps these low income people could simply "retrain" and get "better jobs" and then they can afford the higher prices.
Why would they want to pay a premium for a US made product?

Even if they were multi millionaires?
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Then why are we hiring illegal immigrants for $4.00 an hour to do a job they havnt had the High School education to work on???
If we cant compete using those methods; Why are we doing it?
Because picking fruit, cutting lawns and washing dishes cannot be outsourced to the other side of the world
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Why would they want to pay a premium for a US made product?

Even if they were multi millionaires?
If they could keep their jobs they wouldn't mind the price.
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If they could keep their jobs they wouldn't mind the price.
Sure they would.

Most people tend to maximise their purchasing power.

But if you want to pay extra for an identical product Made in the USA then go ahead.
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Then why are we hiring illegal immigrants for $4.00 an hour to do a job they havnt had the High School education to work on???
If we cant compete using those methods; Why are we doing it?
Only 4 USD per hour? Maybe where you live, they are not as cheap everywhere. Where I used to work, be paid them more than that. If we paid $9 per hour for a nasty warehouse job, the Americans we got were totally unreliable. For the illegals, we paid slightly less but got very reliable workers.
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The government needs to do an about face, and start making these companies pay extra for importing products into the USA.
That could be one possible solution, Knot; but I'm sure it would bring about the obvious result: that company now raises its prices, and laying off employees and will keep doing so until it can level out it's bottom line. Now, whether we like it or not, a company moving it's operation out of the US is in no way illegal. It is happening daily. And it is for the obvious reason: money and profit. To save money, and to increase profit.
But, let me get back to the original point of the thread. Do I think people (immigrants) should learn some rudimentary (at least) English? Of course. Nobody can convince me in any way or with any argument that doing so will be of any harm to anyone. It can only help.

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Old 09-20-2007, 04:30 PM   #157 (permalink)
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Only 4 USD per hour? Maybe where you live, they are not as cheap everywhere. Where I used to work, be paid them more than that. If we paid $9 per hour for a nasty warehouse job, the Americans we got were totally unreliable. For the illegals, we paid slightly less but got very reliable workers.
You also dont have to worry about the Insurance because you dont want the government coming down on your butt for hiring undocumented workers.

So I just saved a bunch of money by switching to "cheap illegal labor"


Also if they die on the job...just toss them right? They have no actual ties or origin to the US so you dont have to worry about it huh?
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You also dont have to worry about the Insurance because you dont want the government coming down on your butt for hiring undocumented workers.

So I just saved a bunch of money by switching to "cheap illegal labor"


Also if they die on the job...just toss them right? They have no actual ties or origin to the US so you dont have to worry about it huh?
It was not my job to worry about such things. You are mistaken if you think that only one company does this. In that industry, if you did not do this, you could not compete in price or service. I think it is more shocking that the Americans had such poor work habits.
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It was not my job to worry about such things. You are mistaken if you think that only one company does this. In that industry, if you did not do this, you could not compete in price or service. I think it is more shocking that the Americans had such poor work habits.
No duh this is happening around the US in every job sector I know that. And its pitiful that they have to run across the border crying "help we want jobs and free money and we will work cheap" while others are waiting correctly in line to gain proper citizenship.

I cant wait for the day of Martial Law so they all will get shot.
And if you want to go and say thats cruel and unusual punishment.
They arent American Citizens so they have no RIGHTS and not allowed to follow the Bill of Rights nor the Constitution.
Why do we(Hard working American Citizens) have to pay the court system for them to be arraigned. They dont deserve to be judged by their peers nor the RIGHT to a fair trial.

They are walking the razors edge..and I hope they slip
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No duh this is happening around the US in every job sector I know that. And its pitiful that they have to run across the border crying "help we want jobs and free money and we will work cheap" while others are waiting correctly in line to gain proper citizenship.

I cant wait for the day of Martial Law so they all will get shot.
And if you want to go and say thats cruel and unusual punishment.
They arent American Citizens so they have no RIGHTS and not allowed to follow the Bill of Rights nor the Constitution.
Why do we(Hard working American Citizens) have to pay the court system for them to be arraigned. They dont deserve to be judged by their peers nor the RIGHT to a fair trial.

They are walking the razors edge..and I hope they slip
I believe the majority of them are hard working people. The problem will not go away as long as there is a demand for 6.95 USD general tso's chicken. A global economy cuts both ways.
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