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Old 09-20-2007, 08:17 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Could you be more wrong? Actually it is middle class America who hire gardeners because they make up the bulk of the population I guarantee you wealthy people are not supporting illegal immigrants ALONE.... I have no idea if these people are here legally or not and I don't really care because I am not raising my kids to be gardeners, or chicken pluckers or lettuce pickers. What I want is to make sure my kids get the benefit of a social security system which the will you die already Baby Boomers are currently eating up, it doubtful I will. I also want to make sure we keep inflation down and if this means that the very few blue collar workers get paid 50 cents less an hour so be it, its their fault for not taking advantage of the education system if they were born here IMO......what I do know is the last time I saw someone who wasn't hispanic cutting grass was about 20 years ago. Shall I freak out or something???

People suddenly noticed what we in SoCal have known for a long time....Latino's speak Spanish and sometimes Spanglish and if you are really lucky they are Chollo and are gluent..welcome to the New America
In an earlier post you said this. "Clearly you misunderstand actual and real poverty, they don't have money before they leave for classes or CD's in many instances un like you. Being unable to place yourself in another persons position shows a lack of empathy IMO. "So I am unable to understand how you then act impatient for your mama and papa and other older people to hurry up and die. and then act as if you are so much above people who pick lettuce and cut grass as you say. and then say it is their fault for being poor.What happened to your empathy between that earlier post and this one? what a sad, sad post to wish old people would die so you could have a few more dollars.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:22 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Sure, why not? anyone can follow a recipe. I know Mexicans who run pizzerias/Italian restaurants for instance and they cook it well.
I once had chinese food in Juarez, Mexico. I had sweet & sour shrimp. Big pieces of shrimp. Better than some of the USA chinese restaurants.
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In an earlier post you said this. "Clearly you misunderstand actual and real poverty, they don't have money before they leave for classes or CD's in many instances un like you. Being unable to place yourself in another persons position shows a lack of empathy IMO. "So I am unable to understand how you then act impatient for your mama and papa and other older people to hurry up and die. and then act as if you are so much above people who pick lettuce and cut grass as you say. and then say it is their fault for being poor.What happened to your empathy between that earlier post and this one? what a sad, sad post to wish old people would die so you could have a few more dollars.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:37 PM   #174 (permalink)
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I once had chinese food in Juarez, Mexico. I had sweet & sour shrimp. Big pieces of shrimp. Better than some of the USA chinese restaurants.

I'm always amazed with Willie's photographic memory of restaurant meals from many years ago.

And his penchant for non sequitors.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:41 PM   #175 (permalink)
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I'm always amazed with Willie's photographic memory of restaurant meals from many years ago.

And his penchant for non sequitors.
And I'm always amazed with your penchant for being so nasty.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:54 PM   #176 (permalink)
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No duh this is happening around the US in every job sector I know that. And its pitiful that they have to run across the border crying "help we want jobs and free money and we will work cheap" while others are waiting correctly in line to gain proper citizenship.
It is even more pitiful that American companies start these problems by hiring from this pool. And we still refuse to punish them.

I cant wait for the day of Martial Law so they all will get shot.
And if you want to go and say thats cruel and unusual punishment.
They arent American Citizens so they have no RIGHTS and not allowed to follow the Bill of Rights nor the Constitution.
Why do we(Hard working American Citizens) have to pay the court system for them to be arraigned. They dont deserve to be judged by their peers nor the RIGHT to a fair trial.
Does this mean that you or any other should be allowed to commit murder for whomever you "judge" so? And for whatever reason you deem to? I don't think America is supposed to work that way, sir.



They are walking the razors edge..and I hope they slip
It is all of us on the razor's edge. That is because we cannot decide legal from illegal, good from bad, and we live in a country that money can subvert whatever we do think.
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I once had chinese food in Juarez, Mexico. I had sweet & sour shrimp. Big pieces of shrimp. Better than some of the USA chinese restaurants.
Oddly enough however, I do not like pizza in Italy (or Austria for that matter). But I did love the Chinese food in Scotland. served by a Chinese man with a very thick Scottish brogue. lol
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:06 PM   #178 (permalink)
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It is even more pitiful that American companies start these problems by hiring from this pool. And we still refuse to punish them.

That is why when caught those companies get heavy fines if not shut down by the government.

Does this mean that you or any other should be allowed to commit murder for whomever you "judge" so? And for whatever reason you deem to? I don't think America is supposed to work that way, sir.

Did I say that I would do any shooting??? I said Martial Law which means the authories IE Cops, Military ect would be doing the "judging"
Which would mean that if pulled over you should be subjected to background checks for Citizenship if deemed neccessary.

It is all of us on the razor's edge. That is because we cannot decide legal from illegal, good from bad, and we live in a country that money can subvert whatever we do think.
Thats why we need to toughen up the borders severely and start cracking down on this crap SOON...
I think Bush is an illegal himself or he would of had that fence up in a flash when everyone was yelling at him to do so.
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:18 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Okay, Hio. I meant not only you; but any of us being allowed to mete out punishment on our veiwpoints. Just because a man wears a uniforn and has a badge, does that give him the right to act as judge, jury, and executioner? Or must we still follow a thing called due process?
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But joe you miss the point im trying to get across
They are Illegal to this country therefore they dont have access to our rights or laws. They cant claim due process
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