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Immigration Should illegal immigrants have any rights? What can we do to stop illegal immigration? Defend your views on illegal immigration in this forum.

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Old 01-13-2007, 09:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I would Pay money to see that !! T
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Old 01-22-2007, 04:52 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Well here is my idea to stop the illegals from coming here.( i am sure the liberals won't like it).

First, put 500,000 troops on the borders with orders to stop anyone or anything coming from the south. (and keep them there for awhile)

Then, over the the new (TV, web, news papers) warn all illegals to report to deportion depots,And if they don't , when they are nabbed they will spend 3 to 5 years picking viggies for free.

now we start rounding them up,,we make them prove that they are Americans, if not,,,bye and don't come back (unless they want to work for free)

And if any American (liberals or boss hogs) help them ..well they get kick out as well..

this is just my idea...
Old 01-22-2007, 07:20 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Sounds like a plan...
Old 01-22-2007, 10:39 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Maybe we should send them, along with the American Communist party members to Venezuela? Where they can live in a "Socialist Utopia."
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Old 01-22-2007, 03:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Because rounding up people for political reasons isn't tyranny . Oh, but I forgot, we elected neo-conservatives, that's right, we're redefining the definition of democracy. Good democracies round up its citizens as religious and political prisoners.

Besides, communists wouldn't like Venezuela. Hmm, perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Venezuela isn't even communist.
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:21 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I was scanning some polital sites for Arizona and I saw this in a press release for Governatorial candidate Dan Goldwater (Barry's Nephew):

During his talk, Goldwater promised to use National Guardsmen to shore up border security and said he wants to house arrested illegal immigrants in tent cities and use them as labor to build a fence along the Arizona-Mexico border.

Can you imagine the back lash form the international community if a crazy man like this got into office. I know Mccain already came out and bashed him, I'm sure many will soon follow suit.
The international community!!, that the problem with many (mostly liberals) people , y'all to dang concern about what others are going to think about us..if these other countries are that damn worried, they should open their doors and let the illegals come there..

Oh and as far as paying the illegals to build the wall..NO!!!they(the illegals )shouldn't be here in the first place..
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as long as we pay them, sure why not. otherwise it's slavery.
Not slavery at all. Using prisoners to do manual labor has been a long held practice in this country. Illegal immigrants are people who have broken the law, nice try, wrong premise.

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I don't see illegals as "criminals", They are just people who are looking to better their situation. They just need to go about it the right way, and get their green card.
Riddle me this, Riddle me that, what do you call someone who breaks the law?? By definition a criminal.

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Old 01-24-2007, 07:13 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I wouldn't see any thing out of place with this if this were say...Nazi Germany. But it is a very very sad day when one of our politicians recommends enslaving a race and nationality: and even more sad when the people condone that sort of thing.

Moreover the idea of building a wall along our border is very very sick. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those fascist bastards called it operation "Festung Amerika". One of the only countries out there to do that today is North Korea.

Again, so typical of a knee-jerk response. You are equating slavery with the punishment of law breakers. What next eliminate all prisons???

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Because rounding up people for political reasons isn't tyranny . Oh, but I forgot, we elected neo-conservatives, that's right, we're redefining the definition of democracy. Good democracies round up its citizens as religious and political prisoners.

Besides, communists wouldn't like Venezuela. Hmm, perhaps it has something to do with the fact that Venezuela isn't even communist.
Religious and political prisoners!! so we're calling illegals that now.wow or are you just twisting the statement ..

I am for what ever it take to stop this country from being over ran..even to the point of taking up arms and defending this country..
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