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Old 01-30-2007, 09:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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The latest telephone poll taken by the office of the Governor of Texas asked whether people who live in Texas think illegal immigration is a serious problem:

35% of respondents answered: "Yes, it is a serious problem."

65% of respondents answered: "No es una problema serio."
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Old 01-30-2007, 09:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Bullshit! Mexico has a long history of their people taking up arms against an oppressive regime.
And what makes now different?
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The latest telephone poll taken by the office of the Governor of Texas asked whether people who live in Texas think illegal immigration is a serious problem:

35% of respondents answered: "Yes, it is a serious problem."

65% of respondents answered: "No es una problema serio."
You do realize that I think that it is a problem and it should be regulated, but it's just that ridiculous anti-immigrant sentiments are pointless and groundless?
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
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now just how does this benefit me or any of my boys? let me guess we go down there and risk our lifes and our money to help these poor (lol) people, and then they just keep coming.
Risk our lives? What are you smoking? I'm talking economic aid & political pressure on the Mexican government. If you disapprove of that, why not disapprove of the humanitarian work overseas?

they are cowards because they will not fight for the freedom of their country, they come here and kill ,rape and steal,, not all of them but enought for us the defend the borders.
Would you fight, or would you protect the welfare of your family? Most opressive regimes are maintained through control out of fear. Very, very few people are willing to take up arms and rebel, even thought that would be nice.

Let me tell you a story. When my grandfather was young, he lived in Italy under Mussolini's fascists. They forced him into military service, and he ran after they sent him to Ethiopia. He went to America, and guess what? A few years later he was back in Africa, fighting Rommel's forces for the United States. He fought for his adopted country, against the people who supported his opressors. If that's cowardice, then I don't think bravery exists.

Have you seen the videos of the hispanics shooting us birds and shouting they want to kill us, and any of the reports that show hispanic wanting us to get out of north America because it belong to them..
I've seen videos and advertisements for the Minuteman Project, the one that shoots illegals and takes their wallets for funding.

so i guess your next commit with be,well that a small number of people" B/S these people don't love you or me (unless you one of them) they rather see you in the streets ,being their slaves or being dead, but not just you but me and any other American...that not hate it's the fact.but if you want to prove me wrong,,go to their hood with with your money and see if you can make it out a live..look at the Americans getting killed and robbed when they go down to mexico...you need to come to the fact , that you and I can not save the whole world , but we can try to save America, this country first.
So they move to the United States, the #1 place where you can find Americans...to hate us? They voluntarily move into a nation of people they despise? You really don't know what you're talking about, do you? Got studies to back this up, actual surveys or polls suggesting that a majority of illegals violently oppose the United States?

Do something for me, go to Boston and walk alone at night. You won't see many Mexicans, but maybe the Irish hoodlum who beats you over the head with a crowbar will give you a lesson in tolerance.

hold on are you a mexican?
Irish & Italian, and proud of being both. Why does this suddenly come up with you all the time? Oh, yeah, because you suddenly assume that if somebody supports immigration, then he or she is Mexican. Do some growing up, and in the meantime...

Great now we have gone to name calling right off the bat, sure you don't want to play the race card first?

No lady I don't smoke ,so you can have all the crack.

Economic Aid, we are aready sending money to mexico and half the the world(unless the news and DC is lying again) and they are still coming.so we waste more money so you and your liberal friends can feel all nice and fuzzie at night..no!

Political Pressure: now that a good one,,we can just have our crooked goverment have a talk with the mean ole crooked mexican goverment.
wow thank god you solve the world problems with that one..
Thank about it,,if that would work the world wouldn't be worried about the mideast..oh and Captain Giveaway..we should stop all aid to anyone ,until every American can have the American dream..you recall the dream don't you?

So the mexican can't fight because of fear.? your words, so American man are better that why we have the best country in the world ( as long as we don't listen to the liberal trash in this country) .oh and lady ,I have been fighting, and I will carry on fighting for this country and with the people of this country.

What has your grandfather got to do with mexicans and liar when did I call your grandfather a coward?come on woman can't you debate without the lies and tale twisting..guess not...

Wow so your telling me the minuteman kill and take the wallets of dead illegals.. and since you never lie i will just go over to the sos site and get on to them about their mean ole minuteman actions..when did the MM do all this killing and robbing? and where are the videos that show this? haha since i am not a member of the minuteman why would I care...but I am not surprize at the off handed answer you gave to the worst problem about illegals..lie and blame it on the minuteman..you're on the ball this mourning great american.
and do you have videos or anything to back your lies about the MM project?


Aw Bean town,,,wow been there already nice place..not sure about the crowbar thing but thanks for your concern..but I have family there and can walk all over the place without harm..Dang Buffy i thought you could do better than this pile of wanna be answers...all i can say is.."NEXT"...
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BTW,,why is it that the illegals are peace loving and just looking for a better life,, but the Irish are Hoodlums..your words not mine..I have Irish,German, and Indian in my blood,,so you can keep up with the race baiting..lol
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Didn't know America First worked below the minimum wage.
so that means i make $5.50 more than you.. come now woman , try to act a little grown up..
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Careful, there! Say that too loudly and we might have to do some more "liberating"!
Translation= throw more money at the problem and put more Americans in the streets.
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Bullshit! Mexico has a long history of their people taking up arms against an oppressive regime.
Now are you really really really sure about that..here i thought mexico was full of drug runner, drug dealers, and pimps.. i am sure glad you set me straight on that..thank you.....
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Great now we have gone to name calling right off the bat, sure you don't want to play the race card first?
I name call when the person warrants abuse. You're clearly acting like a racist prick, so I have no remorse. Fuck you for thinking I'm Mexican, because that only proves how much of an ignorant fuck you are. What proof do you have that I'm Mexican? What the hell makes you say I am? Oh, yeah, apparently everyone who's pro-immigration is Mexican.

No lady I don't smoke ,so you can have all the crack.
I'm a guy, dumbass. Says so in my profile.

Economic Aid, we are aready sending money to mexico and half the the world(unless the news and DC is lying again) and they are still coming.so we waste more money so you and your liberal friends can feel all nice and fuzzie at night..no!
On that one, yes, if the government doesn't cooperate then foreign aid is useless, but it's not wasteful under the general concept.

Political Pressure: now that a good one,,we can just have our crooked goverment have a talk with the mean ole crooked mexican goverment.
wow thank god you solve the world problems with that one..
Thank about it,,if that would work the world wouldn't be worried about the mideast..oh and Captain Giveaway..we should stop all aid to anyone ,until every American can have the American dream..you recall the dream don't you?
That last part was xenophobic, largely indecipherable, unreadable ranting, so I won't address it. Now when I say political pressure, I mean economic sanctions. Remember, we are the most financially powerful nation on earth. A few restraints in trade, some tariffs, things of that nature, and they'll be on their knees. It's imperialistic, but the ends in this case will justify the means for both of us.

So the mexican can't fight because of fear.? your words, so American man are better that why we have the best country in the world ( as long as we don't listen to the liberal trash in this country) .oh and lady ,I have been fighting, and I will carry on fighting for this country and with the people of this country.
Uhh, no, we're the greatest country in the world because we had a chance to expand once every other global superpower fell into obscurity. And citizens are citizens. Mexico is poor and their system is corrupt. Police brutality and the intimidation of the press is rampant. The government either condones it or doesn't care. I wouldn't blame people for running away, because guaranteed if you were unemployed, broke, and had a government that didn't give two shits about you, you'd run off to find a better life, too.

What has your grandfather got to do with mexicans and liar when did I call your grandfather a coward?come on woman can't you debate without the lies and tale twisting..guess not...
The moral of the story is that immigrants don't come here out of cowardice. They come to find a better life. Those who cause trouble can be screened out once the number of immigrants is reduced to a manageable size. Period.

Wow so your telling me the minuteman kill and take the wallets of dead illegals.. and since you never lie i will just go over to the sos site and get on to them about their mean ole minuteman actions..when did the MM do all this killing and robbing? and where are the videos that show this? haha since i am not a member of the minuteman why would I care...but I am not surprize at the off handed answer you gave to the worst problem about illegals..lie and blame it on the minuteman..you're on the ball this mourning great american.
and do you have videos or anything to back your lies about the MM project?
I know because bodies have been found at the border with bullet holes in them. I never said there were videos of people doing this, but they've been suspected of these things for years. That and it's vigilantism, plain and simple. Rebellion against oppression is one thing. Taking the law into your own hands is another. They haven't even served their purpose. It's like trying patch a bullet wound with a band aid.

Aw Bean town,,,wow been there already nice place..not sure about the crowbar thing but thanks for your concern..but I have family there and can walk all over the place without harm..Dang Buffy i thought you could do better than this pile of wanna be answers...all i can say is.."NEXT"...
"Bean town"? And you say you're not racist.

Oh, BTW, still waiting for that study claiming that illegals are generally for an armed uprising.
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Now are you really really really sure about that..here i thought mexico was full of drug runner, drug dealers, and pimps.. i am sure glad you set me straight on that..thank you.....
Oh yes, it is, a lot like pretty much every American city.
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