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Old 02-23-2007, 02:11 PM   #191 (permalink)
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Second, if we want to shut off a garden hose, we can't just try to block the flow of water. We need to turn off the hose. Fix Mexico's problems. How, I have no idea. They're a sovereign nation, and they've been especially critical of us on the illegal immigration front (they've also promoted propaganda campaigns aiming to increase emigration from Mexico). This is the biggest problem we have to face, and instead of throwing time and money on the border, we need to force Mexico to fix its problems, for both our sakes.

Getting into this part late but why should we, the U.S. be responsable to fix other government's problems? Look at Iraq, we went in there removed Saddamand now we are sitting on our asses and or soldiers are being shot, blown up, and even shot down in helicopters. We don't need this and yet we're there and now because of Conscientious people and politicians we are not allowed to leave until Iraq has a stable government, which is not likely to happen any time soon. I support our troops but do not think we need to keep troops over there because they have done as much as they were trained to do and are NOT a police force. I think if we tried to "Help" mexico out it might appear in the same light as Iraq in which other countries think we are trying to expand or taking over countries just for the hell of it.
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Old 02-23-2007, 02:22 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Getting into this part late but why should we, the U.S. be responsable to fix other government's problems? Look at Iraq, we went in there removed Saddamand now we are sitting on our asses and or soldiers are being shot, blown up, and even shot down in helicopters. We don't need this and yet we're there and now because of Conscientious people and politicians we are not allowed to leave until Iraq has a stable government, which is not likely to happen any time soon. I support our troops but do not think we need to keep troops over there because they have done as much as they were trained to do and are NOT a police force. I think if we tried to "Help" mexico out it might appear in the same light as Iraq in which other countries think we are trying to expand or taking over countries just for the hell of it.
Hell I have been saying that for along time..
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:12 PM   #193 (permalink)
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Well for the last time i have tried to be civil with you and yet you still think you know more than anyone..
I don't know more than anyone, but I know that I know more than you.

It' amazes me how when you put the white race down..well it's just fine and dandy, but if i say anything about the white race (of which i am) i am a racist.. now why is that?
Where have I specifically said "The white race is bad" or "I hate whites?" There is nothing there, and more, I never use the term "white race," or anyother "race."
You are a racist because nobody in their right mind uses the term "white race." It's inflammatory, archaic, and aside from you, the only people I have heard use it have been white power boneheads. What does that say about you? It says either you have no idea what you're saying or, as I have speculated, you are a racist.

But i will leave this with you and it will be the end of any more debate between us. Just who the heck are you to be telling me anything, hell boy i have been there and done that, and where are you...still living with mom and off of mom, you know nothing about hate, nothing about life, sure if your lucky and don't run into the wrong person , you might just live long enough to learn what life is all about... if not I guess the mean old whiteman did it.
I know enough about hate and prejudice. Trust me, the suburbs aren't nearly as pristine and idealistic as it seems. Under the surface there's enough racism that it makes you sick. I've seen it in my school and in my community. In fact, last year some scumbag real estate broker tried block-busting by moving in a black family from the Bronx. My experience has showed me that racism is alive and well, but if you want to see it, you have to look beneath the surface.

Let me give you one more point of advice: Don't call a white guy racist toward whites. That's almost never true.
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Old 02-23-2007, 03:14 PM   #194 (permalink)
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Getting into this part late but why should we, the U.S. be responsable to fix other government's problems? Look at Iraq, we went in there removed Saddamand now we are sitting on our asses and or soldiers are being shot, blown up, and even shot down in helicopters. We don't need this and yet we're there and now because of Conscientious people and politicians we are not allowed to leave until Iraq has a stable government, which is not likely to happen any time soon. I support our troops but do not think we need to keep troops over there because they have done as much as they were trained to do and are NOT a police force. I think if we tried to "Help" mexico out it might appear in the same light as Iraq in which other countries think we are trying to expand or taking over countries just for the hell of it.
The point is to improve Mexico enough to stop imigration, or at least reduce it to a manageable level, but the problem is that Mexico is too uncooperative. Their politicians are worse than ours, because they don't give a damn about the poor. It's a cause and effect situation, but it's very difficult to initiate it short of agression, which nobody wants.
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Well for the last time i have tried to be civil with you and yet you still think you know more than anyone..
I don't know more than anyone, but I know that I know more than you.

It' amazes me how when you put the white race down..well it's just fine and dandy, but if i say anything about the white race (of which i am) i am a racist.. now why is that?
Where have I specifically said "The white race is bad" or "I hate whites?" There is nothing there, and more, I never use the term "white race," or anyother "race."
You are a racist because nobody in their right mind uses the term "white race." It's inflammatory, archaic, and aside from you, the only people I have heard use it have been white power boneheads. What does that say about you? It says either you have no idea what you're saying or, as I have speculated, you are a racist.

But i will leave this with you and it will be the end of any more debate between us. Just who the heck are you to be telling me anything, hell boy i have been there and done that, and where are you...still living with mom and off of mom, you know nothing about hate, nothing about life, sure if your lucky and don't run into the wrong person , you might just live long enough to learn what life is all about... if not I guess the mean old whiteman did it.
I know enough about hate and prejudice. Trust me, the suburbs aren't nearly as pristine and idealistic as it seems. Under the surface there's enough racism that it makes you sick. I've seen it in my school and in my community. In fact, last year some scumbag real estate broker tried block-busting by moving in a black family from the Bronx. My experience has showed me that racism is alive and well, but if you want to see it, you have to look beneath the surface.

Let me give you one more point of advice: Don't call a white guy racist toward whites. That's almost never true.
we're done boy, go back to beating your parents and bad mouthing this country....
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Old 02-23-2007, 04:53 PM   #196 (permalink)
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we're done boy, go back to beating your parents and bad mouthing this country....
Well I guess that means you have no other inteligent responses (not that you had many in the first place), so I'll leave you be.
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Old 02-23-2007, 05:15 PM   #197 (permalink)
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Well I guess that means you have no other inteligent responses (not that you had many in the first place), so I'll leave you be.
what ever JR, now go clean your room..
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what ever JR, now go clean your room..
Personal attacks don't forward debates.

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Getting into this part late but why should we, the U.S. be responsable to fix other government's problems?
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Old 02-23-2007, 09:30 PM   #200 (permalink)
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That's for those that come here. It doesn't mean that we go to other countries and fix their problems.
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