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Old 02-23-2007, 10:47 PM   #241 (permalink)
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People here seem to be complaining about illegals not paying taxes. What about the economic gain the United States has gained through NAFTA which has had bad effects on Mexican workers.
It also has bad effects on American workers.

It doesn't justify entering our country illegally - becoming a criminal by definition - and then expecting us to 'make their lives better.'

I dont know what the answer is - obviously we cna't afford to track down, document, try and transport millions and millions of illegals. But just saying, 'oh, well - never mind. Welcome and God speed' is NOT the answer.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:48 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Nice try, but no soup for you.

For the past 25 years I've been married to a woman who could kick your lily arse under the table in a minute - and she only weighs 125 lbs. Without question she has one of the highest IQs of anybody I've ever met.

Scared of strong women?



Yeah, sure. Why not come back at me with something that's not quite so obtuse and puerile.
I notice that you didn't bother to address my question about what I said that was bitter... I'm used to you avoiding my questions though.

My lily arse... I had to stop and collect myself from laughing! The only lily parts of me are the whites of my eyes, my palms and my feet.

In any case, it sounds like I would get along much better with her than you. Smart people don't tend to avoid questions, ignore facts and repeat themselves over and over expecting others to see their point.
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But they're still not paying taxes. That's the problem.
Yes they are.
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It also has bad effects on American workers.

It doesn't justify entering our country illegally - becoming a criminal by definition - and then expecting us to 'make their lives better.'

I dont know what the answer is - obviously we cna't afford to track down, document, try and transport millions and millions of illegals. But just saying, 'oh, well - never mind. Welcome and God speed' is NOT the answer.

Then why do we call ourselves the greatest country in the world? Give me your tired your hungry your poor.
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I notice that you didn't bother to address my question about what I said that was bitter... I'm used to you avoiding my questions though.

My lily arse... I had to stop and collect myself from laughing! The only lily parts of me are the whites of my eyes, my palms and my feet.

In any case, it sounds like I would get along much better with her than you. Smart people don't tend to avoid questions, ignore facts and repeat themselves over and over expecting others to see their point.
Yeah yeah yeah. Nice try.


You're obviously BITTER over the fact that you can't just bully people into agreeing with every stupid little thing you say, and admire your for your (self-proclaimed) rapier wit. People like you, who are obviously internet forum trolls, have no life in the real world and are living vicariously through their on-screen "tough chick" persona.

Any other questions? Or are you going to claim that I'm "avoiding" you again?


I'd suggest you come up with yet another inane accusation to throw at me and embarrass yourself with.
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People here seem to be complaining about illegals not paying taxes. What about the economic gain the United States has gained through NAFTA which has had bad effects on Mexican workers.
Personally, I think that it was a bigger loss than gain.
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Yes they are.
No, they're not. They have no documentation and no citizenship, so we don't know if they're paying or not.
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No, they're not. They have no documentation and no citizenship, so we don't know if they're paying or not.
Most studies show that illegals add a lot of money into our econemy.

undocumented immigrants add billions of dollars in sales, excise, property, income and payroll taxes, including Social Security, Medicare and unemployment taxes...
Yet undocumented immigrants are barred from almost all government benefits
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Then why do we call ourselves the greatest country in the world? Give me your tired your hungry your poor.
Everyone has limits. We have a lot to give, but we don't know how to give it, or how to stop people from taking it.
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Everyone has limits. We have a lot to give, but we don't know how to give it, or how to stop people from taking it.
If we would only accept people if they could benifit us short term then we would be going against what makes this country so strong.
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