Key to stopping immigration? - Page 39

America first · 03-12-2007, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tristanrobin

you are taking the words of a few radicals and using them to broad brush all illegal aliens. That's disingenuous.

So is that the same thing you do, when you start rambling on about everybody is out to get the gays, and now i guess, you're going to back peddle on that too..

I am not too worried about it, i am just stating my opinion, yet i will keep on eye on the news and events going around this country.besides if/when something happens, what can you do?..point your pink pistol and yell "bang bang your dead"

America first · 03-12-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

I agree with you Tristan Robin. I would classify this as propaganda worthy of Josef Goebbels himself. AF- I also think the Minuteman Project is much the same. First of all; can you really tell if a Hispanic is illegal just by looking at him? There is just no way possible. As far as your anger and discontent go; I think I finally have put a finger on it now. I won't go into it as I think you are a fine debater and I respect a man who says what he thinks; even though others may disagree. I'm also going to suggest you try the Dept Of HHS website for more benefits available to you.

Wow, are you comparing me to Josef Goebbels!thanks for the insult..AS far as the mintueman are concern, have they done anything wrong yet? I not here to defend to Minuteman,But my hat go's off to these brave man and woman,these people,give up their time,money, and safety, just to help keep this country a little more safe, and all you can do is put them down. and when and where did i say that all hispanics were illegals, or for that matter all illegals were mexicans, are you just making up stuff to make your opinion look better..

Ok so now according to you, because i am somewhat concerned about the illegals and the mexicans taking this country over, oh yea plus the fact that i love my race (without putting other races down), you think i need mental help,,wow dude all you had to do was read my intro and find that out... now if i was as bad as you claim me to be, wouldn't i be on the news by now..'''''''''''''''NEWS FLASH.. this just in, crazy white has been reported running down the streets, shooting hipanics and hunging white people,,please do not try to contact him, because he is well armed ..with the truth...stay tuned for more amazing reports..now we go to Washington where sally has a report on Bush, tap dancing in a mine field...LOL Joe i don't need to be saved, but this country needs it bad..

nuttyjoe · 03-12-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by America first

Wow, are you comparing me to Josef Goebbels!thanks for the insult..AS far as the mintueman are concern, have they done anything wrong yet? I not here to defend to Minuteman,But my hat go's off to these brave man and woman,these people,give up their time,money, and safety, just to help keep this country a little more safe, and all you can do is put them down. and when and where did i say that all hispanics were illegals, or for that matter all illegals were mexicans, are you just making up stuff to make your opinion look better..

Ok so now according to you, because i am somewhat concerned about the illegals and the mexicans taking this country over, oh yea plus the fact that i love my race (without putting other races down), you think i need mental help,,wow dude all you had to do was read my intro and find that out... now if i was as bad as you claim me to be, wouldn't i be on the news by now..'''''''''''''''NEWS FLASH.. this just in, crazy white has been reported running down the streets, shooting hipanics and hunging white people,,please do not try to contact him, because he is well armed ..with the truth...stay tuned for more amazing reports..now we go to Washington where sally has a report on Bush, tap dancing in a mine field...LOL Joe i don't need to be saved, but this country needs it bad..

My friend; I did not compare you to Josef Goebbels,I referred to the propaganda that is spouted by this Mexica movement and the communique that your Minuteman Project publishes.
I consider propaganda to be action promoted to 1) Make people aware of a certain problem (generally a hot topic), 2)Make them afraid of it, and 3) to blame somebody for it. As I stated earlier; this is done usually to promote a individual's or a group's political veiwpoint. We Americans are not above this behavior. Remember Bush's excuse for explaining the need to invade Iraq? That they posessed WMD's? That is propaganda at it's worst because in all the time we have been over in Iraq we have yet to find one! Even worse; next to Iraq is a country (Iran) that is openly stating it's uranium enrichment program; and it's intentions regarding this. That's what I mean by propaganda.
As far as the race issue goes; can you yet define what you think race is? I haven't yet seen your answer to this. I only ask because I have read many of your posts that seem to center on this.
I do agree with you that the country needs to be saved. i just disagree with some of your thoughts on how we might go about this task.

billybobama · 03-13-2007, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

now just how does this benefit me or any of my boys? let me guess we go down there and risk our lifes and our money to help these poor (lol) people, and then they just keep coming.
Risk our lives? What are you smoking? I'm talking economic aid & political pressure on the Mexican government. If you disapprove of that, why not disapprove of the humanitarian work overseas?

they are cowards because they will not fight for the freedom of their country, they come here and kill ,rape and steal,, not all of them but enought for us the defend the borders.
Would you fight, or would you protect the welfare of your family? Most opressive regimes are maintained through control out of fear. Very, very few people are willing to take up arms and rebel, even thought that would be nice.

Let me tell you a story. When my grandfather was young, he lived in Italy under Mussolini's fascists. They forced him into military service, and he ran after they sent him to Ethiopia. He went to America, and guess what? A few years later he was back in Africa, fighting Rommel's forces for the United States. He fought for his adopted country, against the people who supported his opressors. If that's cowardice, then I don't think bravery exists.

Have you seen the videos of the hispanics shooting us birds and shouting they want to kill us, and any of the reports that show hispanic wanting us to get out of north America because it belong to them..
I've seen videos and advertisements for the Minuteman Project, the one that shoots illegals and takes their wallets for funding.

so i guess your next commit with be,well that a small number of people" B/S these people don't love you or me (unless you one of them) they rather see you in the streets ,being their slaves or being dead, but not just you but me and any other American...that not hate it's the fact.but if you want to prove me wrong,,go to their hood with with your money and see if you can make it out a live..look at the Americans getting killed and robbed when they go down to mexico...you need to come to the fact , that you and I can not save the whole world , but we can try to save America, this country first.
So they move to the United States, the #1 place where you can find Americans...to hate us? They voluntarily move into a nation of people they despise? You really don't know what you're talking about, do you? Got studies to back this up, actual surveys or polls suggesting that a majority of illegals violently oppose the United States?

Do something for me, go to Boston and walk alone at night. You won't see many Mexicans, but maybe the Irish hoodlum who beats you over the head with a crowbar will give you a lesson in tolerance.

hold on are you a mexican?
Irish & Italian, and proud of being both. Why does this suddenly come up with you all the time? Oh, yeah, because you suddenly assume that if somebody supports immigration, then he or she is Mexican. Do some growing up, and in the meantime...

I love it, now that is funny.

America first · 03-13-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

My friend; I did not compare you to Josef Goebbels,I referred to the propaganda that is spouted by this Mexica movement and the communique that your Minuteman Project publishes.
I consider propaganda to be action promoted to 1) Make people aware of a certain problem (generally a hot topic), 2)Make them afraid of it, and 3) to blame somebody for it. As I stated earlier; this is done usually to promote a individual's or a group's political veiwpoint. We Americans are not above this behavior. Remember Bush's excuse for explaining the need to invade Iraq? That they posessed WMD's? That is propaganda at it's worst because in all the time we have been over in Iraq we have yet to find one! Even worse; next to Iraq is a country (Iran) that is openly stating it's uranium enrichment program; and it's intentions regarding this. That's what I mean by propaganda.
As far as the race issue goes; can you yet define what you think race is? I haven't yet seen your answer to this. I only ask because I have read many of your posts that seem to center on this.
I do agree with you that the country needs to be saved. i just disagree with some of your thoughts on how we might go about this task.

I know what propaganda is, people use it everyday without even thinking about it.
Liberals use it to lie to the Americans and the rest of the world..and as far as the race thing go's..you might want to read every post i placed on this thread, and every post before and after..to understand where that came from..

we don't have that big of a race problem in American, sure there alway be racist in this world,nut just because someone states that they love their race, does not mean they are racist, that is liberal propaganda, just so people with stay at each others throats..so now we can get off the race subject..

nuttyjoe · 03-13-2007, 02:08 PM

That's fine with me, AF. I just wanted to know why this is a big issue with you.

America first · 03-13-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

That's fine with me, AF. I just wanted to know why this is a big issue with you.

The illegals are a big issue with me, and i have told you many times, I want a great future for all American kids, they can't have that if we allow this country to be over taken by illegals..when they have all the jobs, just how will the rest of us work...